****Re: We are screwed.

Wed Nov 5 20:41:58 MST 2008

Please, just stop.  Stop.  Move to some other place where this is
expected conversation.  But not here.

Alan

On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:05 PM, keith smith <klsmith2020 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Craig,
>
> It is obvious you are not interested in the truth. There is
> something amiss with Obama.  I do not know exactly what.
>
> I believe everything I provided is the truth or brings into
> question what we have been told about our future leader.
>
> I'll tell you this.  I have a 1st amendment right to state my
> opinion as do you.  I served my country on active duty with the
> Marine Corps and later added 6 plus years in the National Guard.
> I spent 9 years a uniformed police officer patrolling the
> streets of the community I lived in.  I have given to my
> country, state and city.
>
> I went to school on the GI Bill, during most of the time working
> mid-night shift as a police officer.
>
> These experiences have shaped who I am today.
>
> Forgiven?  I'm thinking you do not know what forgiven means.
> It does
>  not mean sin free.  It does not mean I am pure.
> It does not mean I will never sin.
>
> It means that Jesus died for my sins and if I call on his
> name in repentance he will forgive me.  He already paid the
> wages of my sin.
>
> Jesus is the sacrificial lamb of God.  He paid the price.
> It is a done deal.  All we have to do is call on the name
> of Jesus as ask for forgiveness.  As an added bonus he will
> let us dwell with him forever.  What a great gift.
>
> If you have not accepted Jesus as your savior I invite
> you to pray to Him and turn your life over to him and ask
> him to guide you to a Bible based faith filled church.
>
> If you would like me to pray with you
> (or anyone would like me to pray with them) I would be honored.
> Contact me off list and I will provide my phone number.
>
> And yes I am born again.  I have dedicated my life to Jesus for
> the past 10 years.  I read the Bible daily and believe
>  God is
> in charge.  I've seen demon possessed people.  I've experienced
> God's miracles.  I've seen God answer prayers.  I know God is
> real.  The past two churches I attended were/are
> non-denominational and based on the Bible.
> How do I know?  Because I read the Bible and tested every last
> word they said.
>
> Am I fallible?  Yes I am.  Am I a sinner? Yes I am.  How do I
> know?  I read the Bible and it tells me so.
>
> Just because I question who Obama is does not mean I am not
> saved by the blood of Jesus.  You cannot take that from me.
> How do I know?  I read the Bible and it tells me so.
>
> As you can see I am proud to be a Christian and to be saved
> by the shed blood of my savior Jesus.
>
> So who is this fellow Obama and why is he hiding his history
> from me?  What does he have to hide.
>
> I asked the same question when 60 minutes announced that Bush
> was hiding his military records.
>
> I
>  want to know why McCain's military records are sealed.
>
> What do these men have to hide.
>
> You want to be my president then let me see your history.
> Otherwise step aside.
>
> btw Hagee preaches the Bible.
>
> I invite you to read the Bible and see if what he says cannot be
> explained by what what is in it.
>
> ------------------------
> Keith Smith
>
>
> --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com> wrote:
>
> From: Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com>
> Subject: Re: ****Re: We are screwed.
> To: klsmith2020 at yahoo.com, "Main PLUG discussion list"
> <plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:43 PM
>
> On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 15:17 -0800, keith smith wrote:
>
>> I find this interesting the
>  Obama would not just provide proof
>> that he qualifies to be president.
>> I feel we all have the right to know.  What does he have to hide.
>> So again who is this guy?  If he is going to be my president I have a
> right to know!!
>> You say "His history is well documented.".  Please provide
> proof.
> ----
> the truth is out there if you really wanted to see it
>
> http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iw1At-4G1xuE50oXVFRlBPfR3dqgD945OLU00
> ----
>>
>> The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last 20 years at the
>> Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's south side, has a long
>> history of what even Obama's campaign aides concede is
> "inflammatory
>> rhetoric," including the assertion that the United States brought on
>> the 9/11 attacks with its own "terrorism."
>>
>> Obama only left the church after he was exposed.
>>
>  http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788
> ----
> Religion is an ugly topic for this list. Sarah Palin was blessed to ward
> off witches. McCain was endorsed by Rev. Hagee who is as off the wall as
> they come. Hagee called Hurricane Katrina God's punishment for the sin
> practiced in New Orleans and the Holocaust justified because the Jews
> didn't accept Jesus Christ.
>
> Pox on all of their houses
> ----
>> William Ayers and his connections to Barack Obama
>>
> http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/8/22/obama-needs-to-explain-his-ties-to-william-ayers.html
> ----
> the whole Ayers topic is absurd to it's core...
> http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/tny/2008/11/mr-ayerss-neighborhood.html
> ----
>
>> His wife said "....this is the first time I have been
>> happy with America...".  Yes it is quoted.  Maybe she had just
>> come from church and one of those "let's rebuild America"
> sermons
>>
>  that Reverend Wright was good a preaching.
> ----
> you and I will never know what it was like to grow up black in America.
> ----
>
>> A privileged African-American, who has not shared the black American
> experience
>> By birth, blood and training, a Muslim, who has been a member of a
> Black-African church for 20 years
>> A socialist whose politics are rooted in Marx and whose tactics were
> conceived by Alinsky
>> A master at shaping his own mythology and completely unqualified to be
> Commander in Chief
>> http://www.theobamafile.com/
> ----
> you really ought to be ashamed of yourself for repeating such idiotic bile
> on
> this list.
>
> Slander by insinuation, association and spread fear, uncertainty and doubt
> without even considering that the majority of the newspapers in this country
> endorsed Barack Obama for president.
>
> The funny thing is, I'll bet you call yourself a forgiving Christian.
>  If
> you call yourself a Christian, I will call you a fraud.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
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