OT: (is this OT?) udpate - [news item: "Sebastopol"] (was: Re: [...] municipal wifi woes)

[Mike Schwartz]

On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Mike Schwartz <schwartz at acm.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com> wrote:
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>> On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 17:17 -0700, Mike Schwartz wrote:
>> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Mike Schwartz <schwartz at acm.org> wrote:
>> > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Craig White <craig at tobyhouse.com> wrote:
>> > >  > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:42 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
>> > >  > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Craig White <craig at tobyhouse.com> wrote:
>> > >  > > >  On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 11:28 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
>> > >  > > >  > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Mike Schwartz <schwartz at acm.org> wrote:
>> > >  > > >  >
>> > >  > > >  > >  [4]   "[...] the municipal Wi-Fi market isn't dying. [...] But, [...]
>> > >  > > >  > >  "taxpayers have lost so far." "
>> > >  > > >  > >  --
>> > >  > > >  > >  Mike Schwartz
>> > >  > > >  >
>> > >  > > >  >   as I've noted on this list before, Muni Wifi was pronounced dead
>> > >  > > >  > before it was ever even born.  [...]
>> > >  > > >  ----
>> > >  > > >  Obviously the consumer was the last consideration of Tempe's Muni WiFi
>> > >  > > >  system [...]
>> > >  > >
>> > >  > >   As was pointed out on the AZIPA list, the contractor that was chosen
>> > >  > > was not even an AZ in-state contractor [...]
>> > >  > > >
>> > >  > > >  Lessig discussed the last mile [...]
>> > >  > >
>> > >  > >   Can we have some names here?  [...]
>> > >  > ----
>> > >  > [...] There seems to
>> > >  > be a quick charge to the blame game [...]
>> > >  >
>> > >  > Craig
>> > >  > ---------------------------------------------------
>> > >  > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [...]
>> > >
>> > >  Here's a news item:  at
>> > >    http://technews.acm.org/archives.cfm?fo=2008-03-mar/mar-24-2008.html#354574
>> > >  it says:  <<
>> > >  "Intel Researchers Stretch Wi-Fi to Cover 60 Miles
>> > >  Network World (03/20/08) Cox, John
>> > >
>> > >  Intel recently demonstrated an 802.11 radio link with a data rate of
>> > >  approximately 6 Mbps and a range exceeding 60 miles. [...]"
>> > >  >>
>> > >  ...and the final "Click Here to View Full Article" is a hyper link to
>> > >      http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/032008-intel-wi-fi-60-miles.html
>> > >  (where you may want to click on "Print"; -- (even to read it on-screen)) [...]
>> > >  --
>> > >  Mike Schwartz
>> > >  [...]
>> >
>> > Also in the news today (hot off the electronic presses):
>> > ("Town of Sebastopol, CA rescinds resolution to provide public Wifi"):
>> >      http://www.boingboing.net/2008/03/24/town-of-sebastopol-c.html
>> > ...now I wonder what the chances are that Tempe will be "Tempted" to
>> > do the same?
>> ----
>> according to this (just 2 days ago)...
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/22/us/22wireless.html
>>
>> it's already toast
>>
>> Craig
>
> Aha, OK.
> Now it sounds like [...] it [canceled wifi plans] happened in other cities first.
> In that case, I wonder whether the alleged new tech breakthrough
>    (that "range exceeding 60 miles [...]" thing)
> might turn things around.
> --
> Mike Schwartz [...]

I just saw this:
     http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=186011
it appears to be just for one apt. [condo?] building (240 units)
vs. for a whole city -- (so maybe this is Mac OSXs and oranges).
but still, it sounds like Hi speed IP for 'some of' the masses, is
happening (it is not "game over" quite yet...)
--
Mike Schwartz
Glendale AZ
schwartz at acm.org