OT: (is this OT?) udpate - [news item: "Sebastopol"] (was: Re: [...] municipal wifi woes)

Mike Schwartz schwartz at acm.org
Mon Mar 24 18:19:01 MST 2008


On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com> wrote:

> On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 17:17 -0700, Mike Schwartz wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Mike Schwartz <schwartz at acm.org> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Craig White <craig at tobyhouse.com>
> wrote:
> > >  > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:42 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> > >  > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Craig White <craig at tobyhouse.com>
> wrote:
> > >  > > >  On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 11:28 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote:
> > >  > > >  > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Mike Schwartz <
> schwartz at acm.org> wrote:
> > >  > > >  >
> > >  > > >  > >  [4]   "[...] the municipal Wi-Fi market isn't dying.
> [...] But, [...]
> > >  > > >  > >  "taxpayers have lost so far." "
> > >  > > >  > >  --
> > >  > > >  > >  Mike Schwartz
> > >  > > >  >
> > >  > > >  >   as I've noted on this list before, Muni Wifi was
> pronounced dead
> > >  > > >  > before it was ever even born.  [...]
> > >  > > >  ----
> > >  > > >  Obviously the consumer was the last consideration of Tempe's
> Muni WiFi
> > >  > > >  system [...]
> > >  > >
> > >  > >   As was pointed out on the AZIPA list, the contractor that was
> chosen
> > >  > > was not even an AZ in-state contractor [...]
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >  Lessig discussed the last mile [...]
> > >  > >
> > >  > >   Can we have some names here?  [...]
> > >  > ----
> > >  > [...] There seems to
> > >  > be a quick charge to the blame game [...]
> > >  >
> > >  > Craig
> > >  > ---------------------------------------------------
> > >  > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [...]
> > >
> > >  Here's a news item:  at
> > >
> http://technews.acm.org/archives.cfm?fo=2008-03-mar/mar-24-2008.html#354574
> > >  it says:  <<
> > >  "Intel Researchers Stretch Wi-Fi to Cover 60 Miles
> > >  Network World (03/20/08) Cox, John
> > >
> > >  Intel recently demonstrated an 802.11 radio link with a data rate of
> > >  approximately 6 Mbps and a range exceeding 60 miles. [...]"
> > >  >>
> > >  ...and the final "Click Here to View Full Article" is a hyper link to
> > >
> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/032008-intel-wi-fi-60-miles.html
> > >  (where you may want to click on "Print"; -- (even to read it
> on-screen)) [...]
> > >  --
> > >  Mike Schwartz
> > >  [...]
> >
> > Also in the news today (hot off the electronic presses):
> > ("Town of Sebastopol, CA rescinds resolution to provide public Wifi"):
> >      http://www.boingboing.net/2008/03/24/town-of-sebastopol-c.html
> > ...now I wonder what the chances are that Tempe will be "Tempted" to
> > do the same?
> ----
> according to this (just 2 days ago)...
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/22/us/22wireless.html
>
> it's already toast
>
> Craig
>

Aha, OK.
Now it sounds like what happened in the "Town of Sebastopol, CA" is
not such big news -- it [canceled wifi plans] happened in other cities
first.
In that case, I wonder whether the alleged new tech breakthrough
   (that "range exceeding 60 miles [...]" thing)
might turn things around.
-- 
Mike Schwartz
Glendale AZ
schwartz at acm.org
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