OT: Survelliance in America

[Joshua Zeidner]

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Mike Garfias <mike at garfias.org> wrote:
>
> On Jun 29, 2008, at 4:53 PM, Charles Jones wrote:
>> I've encountered many people who say that 9/11 was executed by
>> everything from the NY Firefighters, to the secret service. I've
>> discovered that some people simply prefer to believe in conspiracy.
>> FYI I was living in DC at the time of 9/11, and I was an eye witness
>> to the Pentagon attack, and came very close to losing someone that
>> was close to me (she would have been killed that day if I had not
>> made her late for work). When people actually argue with me about
>> what happened at the Pentagon (insisting that it was a "Global
>> Hawk", missile, etc), I find it almost amusing. I was *there*, and
>> they would still rather believe something they read on the internet!
>> I cannot imagine the state of anxiety and mistrust of someone who
>> actually thinks that our govt would plot and publicly kill thousands
>> of US citizens for some hidden agenda.
>
> Just like the people that insist that jetfuel burning couldnt have
> brought down the WTC towers as it burns at a lower temp than steel
> melts?  I've had engineers tell me this - I guess they're short on the
> real world experience: I've bent 1" forged steel bars with nothing
> more than a cresent wrench (and a torch to bring the steel to 900 or
> so degrees).
>
> People can't look at metallurgical data and see that steel loses 1/2
> its strength by 900 degrees.
>
> Oh, and assuming the government was behind the 9/11 attacks is saying
> the same government that brought you the DMV was capable of of
> planning and executing such a conspiracy with no one talking about it.


  What about building 7?





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