OT - Have you seen this ad?

[alexanderhenry at cox.net]

Please don't do things like trade in your car for another that's $10k or $15k more just to go from 25mpg to 40mpg, it can take many years to recover the price difference in gas savings, and someone else is going to buy and burn gas in your trade-in anyway.

In the above example, there's a 15 mile per gallon savings.

1gal/15mi * $4/1gal => $0.26/mi savings

You'll need to drive almost 40k miles to get the money back for the $10k tradein.  Stop giving your paychecks to the bank!

Now if you can put in a $10k solar panel and wind combo and save $1k a year or more, that might be a worthy investment for a home.



---- Eric Cope <eric.cope at gmail.com> wrote: 
> I wouldn't be too excited about 32 mpg (I saw the 37s and 38s, thats
> better). Over 40 and thats good... (side note, have you *safely* aired up
> your tires to 40-45psi, that will get you 1-3 more mpg). The true metric is
> not $/mile, but $/day.
> 
> $/gallon * gallons/mile *  miles/day = $/day. If you spend $.10/mile but
> commute to LA from Phoenix, its still wasteful... but if you spend $1.5/day
> on fuel, thats making a difference. because if its only $1.50 a day, then
> you could probably bike to work...
> 
> let me know what your solar experiences are. I found they take 20+ years to
> pay for themselves with warranties under 20 years. Are you familiar with the
> maintenance of solar?
> 
> And you didn't answer my second question. If we as a population are willing
> to do it ourselves (which is always better), why do we require our leaders
> to bully us into doing it ourselves?
> 
> keep up the good fight!
> 
> On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 7:19 PM, Jason Spatafore <jasons at spatafore.net>wrote:
> 
> >  I bought a car that gets 32+ MPG constantly.
> >
> > See attached spreadsheet. :)
> >
> > Getting ready to have solar added to my house. 8.6kwH unit so I generate a
> > surplus.
> >
> > Notice how I measure performance on $/mile. That's what really matters. I
> > was ticked when it hit .10/mile. I want to see $.05/mile.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > *From:* Eric Cope <eric.cope at gmail.com>
> > *To:* huertanix at gmail.com ; Main PLUG discussion list<plug-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:55 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: OT - Have you seen this ad?
> >
> > Sorry to start the flame war...
> > Stephen, what are you doing to stop the "addiction"?
> > Why do we need our "leaders" to do it for us?
> >
> > <remaining on soap box for response>
> >
> > Eric
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 4:23 PM, <huertanix at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Link is relevant to my interests but please add an "OT" to the subject
> >> line next time. :)
> >> Sent from my BlackBerry Smartphone provided by Alltel
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Stephen Wiebelhaus <shackman97 at yahoo.com>
> >>
> >> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 18:54:31
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> >> Subject: Have you seen this ad?
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