sad day on PLUG

[Craig White]

On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 20:04 -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 07:27:53PM -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 18:57 -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 09, 2007 at 06:29:08PM -0700, Craig White wrote:
> > > > BTW...nice swipe at the other BSD, which of course has to be marketed to
> > > > excess because as you know, corporate profits depend upon it.
> > > 
> > > OSX isn't BSD. It's Apple's own frankenstein. It's got some BSD in it,
> > > for sure. I think you know this, Craig. Was that a troll? ;-)
> > > 
> > > Derek's point about Leopard being a service pack with fanfare is well
> > > made. There *are* some nifty new features, but only a few. It's a point
> > > release, just like the 10.5 version reflects.
> > > 
> > > And your point, Craig, about corporate profits is not lost on me,
> > > either. It sure makes things work differently than with releases in the
> > > open source world.
> > ----
> > sorry...I am never proud of myself when I do sarcasm...calling Mac OSX
> > 'the other BSD' was tongue in cheek.
> 
> No, no. I was merely jesting in return. It's all good fun.
> 
> > Truth be told, enough people (I set a fairly low watermark of 5) on the
> > local MacOSX Mail list felt that I was too negative about MacOSX to
> > remain on their list so I un-subbed as I had promised to do if it
> > reached the mark.
> 
> Some communities have lower tolerance for dissent than others. I think
> most people here can agree to disagree on just about anything.
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just so it's clear...

I used to be vp of Arizona Apple Users Group and even ran their meetings
for a few years (that of course would require a trip in the wayback
machine).

Sometime in the mid-80's, I ran for President of AMUG and the board
members used group money and group mail lists and mailed out to all
members support for my opponent. It was a rather pathetic display of
probably the type of behavior that no user group should ever engage.
Obviously, I allowed my membership to expire and never had another thing
to do with AMUG.

The list I un-subbed from was Jay from Kinetic/Edgeos mail list which
has nothing to do with AMUG but a number of the AMUG's core members who
worship the ground Steve Jobs walks on. It's obviously not a list for
me...I like Jay though.

As for OS's, I have gotten to appreciate Linux. I like the fact that the
repositories of packages is very deep on Fedora and that for minimal
effort, I seem to get just about everything that I want with yum
install...and don't have to scout around for development packages/build
requirements, etc. Every time I get on a Mac, it's work...and I still
haven't figured out how to enable sshd server at startup (perhaps that
got easier with the new 'service pack'  ;-)

Craig