New Computer:

Thu Feb 1 14:38:29 MST 2007

where do you get them and why would some discard such a machine?

Bryan O'Neal <BONeal at cornerstonehome.com> wrote: We gave away two computers last ASULUG installfest and I think both of
them where above 1GHz processors and more then 512MB with some decent
vid cards.

We may have another next installfest :)

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[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of
Michael Havens
Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2007 12:26 PM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: New Computer:

Okay, Does anyone out there on the cyber trail have a computer they want
to 
part with? I'm on another mailing list and a guy in Sanfransico thinks
I'm 
crazy for trying to keep this old box as anything except a firewall.

Gee..... you guys think that too!

He was saying how he picked up a box with 768 MB RAM and an 800 Mhz
processor, 
with a 40 gig drive, for $20 at a yard sale and said if I was in his
area 
he'd give it to me. (I'll post our exchange at the bottom... I think it
is 
funny

I don't even need the stuff like USB ports or hard drive or floppy or
CDRom. I 
can just yank them out of the old computer.

-exchange-

Sounds to me like udev isn't running on your box.

Is it even installed?

I'm running Ubuntu, another Debian derivative.  Have you tried:

dpkg -l | grep -i udev

Have you tried running Ubuntu.  Everything is just there and it works.

Russ

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   Well, I can't help you a whole lot then.  I've been following the
discussion a bit and if you've got to recompile the kernel...   well
that's ugly.  I don't know what your situation is, but have you
considered switching to Ubuntu Linux?  It's also a Debian derivative and
jpilot just works, like most everything else.

I know it's something of a tail wagging the dog kind of thing, but
Ubuntu really is complete.  I've been using one form of 'IX or another
since 1989 and I'm in love with Ubuntu.

Russ

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   I like the sound of that. I guess Ubuntuu shouldn't be that bad......
but really I do want to compile a kernel. I guess it is for my own
edification. If compiling a new kernel doesn't help I will do it then
PLUS I'll have my custom kernel!

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   Having a custom kernel only means that YOU have to support that
kernel.
And 6 months from now when a later kernel rev comes out, if you want to
be current, you'll have to re-compile that kernel with your specific
mods, which may or may not work with that kernel.

I haven't had to compile a kernel in 15 years and I don't plan to do so
again any time soon.

Give me something that works.

Russ

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   I am running the 2 6 15 kernel now and the concensus seems to be that
my box cannot run such a kernel. I then ran synaptic to get a 2 4
kernel (2 4 27-2-k6) but that didn't install a properly running
kernel. So I am just biding my time until:
1- it works
2- someone takes the time to help show me how to compile it.

It seems david said he had written an extensive how to so right now I
am just waiting for a link to it
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   Running Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake), I have the 2.6.15-27 kernel.
Unless
your box is REALLY old, I'm sure it would support that just fine.  All
it needs is a 350 Mhz processor and 128 MB RAM.  Surely you have that
much.

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   Oh God!  Why do you waste your time with it then when newer stuff is
sooooooo cheap?  Isn't your time worth something?  Last year I picked up
a box with 768 MB RAM and an 800 Mhz processor, with a 40 gig drive, for
$20 at a yard sale.  I'm cleaning out the basement now and if you were
here in the San Francisco area where I live, I'd give the damn thing to
you.  Good grief!  1997?!

Machines that old can be useful, but not as desktops.  There's a special
Linux gizmo out there which exists solely on a floppy disk for the
purpose of making your machine into a firewall.  Put two NIC cards in
the box and a floppy drive, and that's all you need.   No hard drive at
all.  Of course seeing as how you can buy commercial firewall/routers
for about $25 new, why bother?!

Junk that machine man and score something a little newer at least.  I'll
betcha you could find a 500 Mhz PIII box for $50 or less if you just
look around.

Coolness,

Russ

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   Okay Russ.... I'll look around. I'll ask the local Linux guys!
They'll
help me pick something up (I hope).
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