It's now illegal to turn on your computer

[Joshua Zeidner]

  Well I think its an indicator of how absurd thier thinking is.  What
if I have a sound file in my temporary web cache that I got from
visiting a site?  Can they take me to court?

  In order to enforce copyright at the level they appear to be aiming
for, would require regulations at the hardware and software level.
These kind of court rulings imply such ridiculous measures that it
would appear, from technical standpoint, that copyright should be
abandoned altogether.  However, copyright has formed the basis for
most modern legal systems for at least 100 years (dates practically
back to the Renaissance)- and having an 'information society' without
it is almost incomprehensible.

  There are a few people here and there who have done theoretical work
in this area, the most important probably being Lewis Hyde.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Hyde

  http://www.lewishyde.com/pub/gift.html

  I haven't been appreciating Lawrence Lessig as of late, he appears
to have sold out to some kind of academic or corporate interest.  A
lot of relevant issues have been propping up, and Lessig hasn't said a
word, instead he now concentrates on some kind of vague crusade
against 'corruption'.  And he's supposed to be the vanguard of
copyright issues on the net.

  -jmz





On 12/30/07, Scott <gneamob at yahoo.com> wrote:
> If they did go that route, then they would have more
> up against them in the realm of software copyrights.
>
> --- Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >   one point I was pondering the other day... if it
> > is illegal to have
> > a copyrighted file on your hard drive, is it illegal
> > to have a
> > bittorrent piece as well?  if so, then every
> > bittorrent user is liable
> > for CR infringement /regardless of whether they are
> > actively sharing a
> > Copyrighted File/!
> >
> >   it seems to me that the issue here is one of
> > enforcement.  Is
> > copyright enforceable given technolgy such as the
> > internet?
> >
> >   -jmz
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/30/07, JD Austin <jd at twingeckos.com> wrote:
> > > Looks like a good argument for encrypting your
> > music with something like
> > > truecrypt... let them PROVE that the Huge file is
> > really music files.
> > >
> > > Honestly I will cheer the day when the RIAA/MPAA
> > and their outdated
> > > music distribution system is gone.  For now I'll
> > just not buy their
> > > music or movies; too bad I support them indirectly
> > buy renting movies :(
> > >
> > > Craig White wrote:
> > > > You're scaring me. I seriously point out where
> > the RIAA is claiming that
> > > > it is illegal for a user to copy music from
> > legally purchased CD's to
> > > > his/her hard drive and you want to ridicule
> > someone's music choices.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, 2007-12-30 at 19:59 -0700, Joshua
> > Zeidner wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> the funniest part about it is the songs she was
> > downloading:
> > > >>
> > > >>    Destiny's Child "Bills,Bills,Bills"
> > > >>    Journey "Don't Stop Believin"
> > > >>
> > > >>  do they really think were going to risk
> > getting sued to listen to this crap?
> > > >>
> > > >>   -jmz
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 12/30/07, Craig White
> > <craigwhite at azapple.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> get a load of this...it's not something
> > someone can just make up
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> >
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/28/AR2007122800693.html
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Clearly Apple, Microsoft et al. are turning us
> > into lawbreakers
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Craig
> > > >>>