OT: Digg - Open DS Governance Issues

Craig White craigwhite at azapple.com
Tue Dec 4 20:22:29 MST 2007


Sun's gonna learn from this? Don't bet the farm.

As for forking, my take on the CDDL is that it's possible but that it
must also carry the CDDL license with it covering the original software.

Craig

On Tue, 2007-12-04 at 19:52 -0700, Stephen P Rufle wrote:
> Yeah I just wanted to see what people thought about the issues that came 
> up. I saw commentary about just forking the OpenDS proj , but was unsure 
> if that was even possible. I am currently a Java developer and hope that 
> this was an isolated incident that will put pressure on Sun to better 
> educate the staff about open source. Sort of the way that "Sensitivity" 
> training is probably mandatory.
> 
> 
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-12-03 at 16:52 -0700, Stephen P Rufle wrote:
> >> http://digg.com/linux_unix/Open_DS_Governance_Issues
> > ---
> > I presume that this was tossed to the list for commentary but it's
> > possible that the intent was to smear Sun for heavy handedness (although
> > that is not entirely unexpected). It would seem that some middle manager
> > at Sun made a cost cutting move and there was little consideration to
> > the impact on the ramifications of that move and this project is likely
> > to languish - read the backstory...
> > 
> > http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2007/112907-sun-opends.html
> > 
> > I think that this story revolves around the issue of software licenses
> > and to that extent, one of the software developers involved in openDS
> > (and now no longer employed by Sun likely to be involved in future
> > development) has a blog that discusses the CDDL License and the
> > ramifications of that license...
> > 
> > http://directorymanager.wordpress.com/2007/12/02/why-the-dislike-for-cddl/
> > 
> > It is curious that Sun used LGPL for openoffice.org, CDDL for openDS and
> > OpenSolaris.
> > 
> > I think that this continues to inure to Red Hat's good will because they
> > actually purchased the Netscape Directory Server from AOL (the ashes of
> > Netscape) and have released it lock, stock and barrel (and it took them
> > quite some time to audit the code, assign the various parts and pieces
> > to the proper license, etc.
> > 
> > http://directory.fedoraproject.org/
> > 
> > http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing
> > 
> > and a very impressive, almost AD like...
> > 
> > http://directory.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Screenshots
> > 
> > and I've been using it at a client's office and it works rather well all
> > considered.
> > 
> > But I am mostly using OpenLDAP.
> > 
> > OpenDS is not much in use. Thankfully, you don't need to use java for
> > everything (though I've seen it said that when all you have is a hammer,
> > everything looks like a nail).
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
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