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Tue Aug 28 17:24:13 MST 2007


program in Computer Science in the fall of 2007. (I wanted to make it
1, but the GRE math protion thought otherwise).  It seems to me that
the specific case for lifting quotas for foreign graduate students
will help bolster the *existance* of graduate and even undergraduate
computer science education in Arizona, which would, without foreign
students, probably atrophy itself out of existance for lack of
popularity and tuition revenue.

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david [.dh] huerta
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<br><br>There in lies the problem.&nbsp; Why not create an environment where US students will take the steps necessary to get the skills to compete.&nbsp; Instead we are strengthening other countries at our expense.<br><br>I lost a promotion to a person who came to the US to study, was subsidized by my tax dollars, stayed and became my boss.&nbsp; <br><br>I take issue with some of these governmental decisions.&nbsp; If we as a country have a short coming, work on it and make it better.&nbsp; Do not roll over and play dead!<br><br>So far, off shore consulting has not hurt me however if they ever get their act&nbsp; together they could literally kill me.&nbsp; I cannot compete with $5.00 to $12.00/hr.<br><br>I have this picture in my head of an H-1B taking an $80,000/year job at $40,000, living in a efficiency apartment, eating rice and beans, and send all their money back to India to support 5 families.&nbsp; While one less American is able to provide the living they have
 worked towards.&nbsp; And while the government gives the same corporations tax breaks.&nbsp; Who ends up paying for all this?&nbsp; WE DO!<br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><b><i>David Huerta &lt;huertanix at gmail.com&gt;</i></b> wrote:<blockquote class="replbq" style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> &gt;<br>&gt; "The Innovation Employment Act, introduced by Representative Gabrielle<br>&gt; Giffords, an Arizona Democrat, late Thursday, would increase the cap<br>&gt; in H-1B visas from 65,000 a year to 130,000 a year. In addition, there<br>&gt; would be no cap on H-1B applications for foreign graduate students<br>&gt; attending U.S. colleges and studying science, technology and related<br>&gt; fields. Currently, there's a 20,000-a-year cap on visas for graduate<br>&gt; students in all fields."<br><br><br>From what I've heard, ASU had 0 American citizens begin a graduate<br>program in Computer Science in the fall of 2007. (I
 wanted to make it<br>1, but the GRE math protion thought otherwise).  It seems to me that<br>the specific case for lifting quotas for foreign graduate students<br>will help bolster the *existance* of graduate and even undergraduate<br>computer science education in Arizona, which would, without foreign<br>students, probably atrophy itself out of existance for lack of<br>popularity and tuition revenue.<br><br>-- <br>david [.dh] huerta<br>devrylinux.org<br>---------------------------------------------------<br>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss at lists.plug.phoenix.az.us<br>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings:<br>http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss<br></blockquote><br><BR><BR><br>------------------------<br>Keith Smith<br>(520) 207-9877<br><a href="http://www.netcodeman.com/">PHP Programmer</a><br><span style="font-weight: bold;"><br></span><p>&#32;
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