Thanks for the help.

[Mike Schwartz]

On 9/20/06, Craig White <craigwhite at azapple.com> wrote:
>
> Systems where bayes autolearn is active might be more accommodating
> other e-mail that is similar. Familiarity breeds contempt.
>
> Personally, the methodology that I find most effective is to stop as
> much as you can at MTA level and not accept it and then you can
> effectively run spamassassin, etc. upon that which gets through. If you
> control the MTA for your domain, you can very effectively limit spam.
> Greylisting is huge.
>
> I switched a client over to my current setup and am rejecting 70% of
> inbound mail at MTA level - thus it is never accepted. Really lightens
> the load to do further spamassassin, virus, phishing checks.
>
> Junk mail filtering on individual mailboxes from an ISP can be difficult
>
> Craig
>
> On Wed, 2006-09-20 at 10:45 -0700, Kenneth wrote:
> > Agreed.  You have to wonder though.  I'm not about to waste my time
> opening
> > and reading an email where the subject is meaningless.  Sure it gets
> through
> > filters but I can't imagine it gets read very much.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Judd Pickell <pickell at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I believe they do that to pass content filters. If the content covers
> more
> > > than just a simple idea, it will be passed through. Rather than emails
> that
> > > only talk about viagra or what not.
> > >
> > > Sincerely,
> > > Judd Pickell
> > >
> > > On 9/20/06, bmike101 at cox.net <bmike101 at cox.net> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It is as I expected.
> > > >
> > > > I have another question:
> > > >
> > > > I always get mail with words in it that don't form sentences (such
> as the
> > > > example below). What is this?
> > > >
> > > > ---
> > > > below
> > > > ---
> > > >
> > > > sleep, paper that remember [...SNIP some of the pseudo-random
> crap...]
> > > >    cab theater food stand the tripod. the
> > > > some. a with freezing the then, cashier,
> > > >
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> Greylisting is huge.

The white paper for greylisting is at:
  http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/whitepaper.html
"see also"
  http://projects.puremagic.com/greylisting/
and (this was the first hit, when searching):
  http://greylisting.org/

> Someone must be reading them considering that they keep sending them.. :)

umm, that would be true if spammers were sensible.
- - maybe sometimes they are, but it appears that a vast
percentage of them, are infused with wishful thinking.
It kinda reminds me of  "cargo cults"
(see
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
or
   http://www.lhup.edu/~DSIMANEK/cargocul.htm
or,
   just do a search for "Cargo_cult")
-- 
Mike Schwartz
Glendale  AZ
schwartz at acm.org
Mike.L.Schwartz at gmail.com
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