firefox insecurity?

Kenneth madhse at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 20 18:08:24 MST 2005


I once wrote over the first couple K of the IE exe
file to make it inoperable, and just did without the
things that broke, on the assumption that if they
weren't designed well, I didn't need to use them.

--- Josh Coffman <josh_coffman at yahoo.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> --- Dragos Neagu <dragos.neagu at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On 9/20/05, Josh Coffman <josh_coffman at yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Now, to say you can't connect to the internet on
> > > windows without IE and/or outlook is just plain
> > > ignorant. Sorry, but it is. I ran firefox and
> > > thunderbird after i gave up IE and outlook. I
> then
> > > switched to all webmail, so I had no email
> client.
> > 
> > You can "remove" IE via; Add/Remove Programs >
> > Windows Components > IE.
> > BUT...if you open explorer and type an Internet
> > address, it'll still
> > use IE (this is how they sidestepped the monopoly
> > lawsuit and still
> > shipped IE, because it was "required" for the OS
> to
> > run).  Also
> > certain programs don't obey your prefered browsers
> > and open IE
> > whenever you click on a link.  You just can't get
> > away from IE on
> > windows.
> > 
> > --
> > -Dragos Neagu <><
> > "If I have been able to see farther, it was only
> > because I stood on
> > the shoulders of giants." - Sir Isaac Newton
> > "Open source is like science, closed source is
> like
> > witchcraft" - Linus Torvalds
> 
> I never ran into any of those IE-linked apps, but I
> can see how, as a programmer, that might be. (Using
> a
> path to launch the browser instead of the system
> default setting. generally a bad progamming to do
> that.)
> 
> I also never bought into that monopoly thing... MS
> isn't a monopoly; it is(was?) an oligopoly. I'm not
> sure if that's the right word, but basically a
> seller
> or group of sellers that have such a large portion
> of
> the market that thay basically have a strangle hold
> of
> potential buyers. Like a monopoly, but not an
> absence
> of choices. Problem for the MS-is-monopoly crowd is
> that an oligopoly isn't illegal. Otherwise, the
> utility companies would also be in violation.
> 
> I recall reading some how-to to really remove IE,
> but
> I figured it was more work than I cared for. and, if
> I
> wanted, there is a certain dll that could be altered
> or removed to criple IE (and possibly IP sockets).
> 
> 
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