Free Software for m$

[Craig White]

This is a linux mail list - you use Microsoft mail client on Windows at
your own peril. When I started on this list, I was using Windows for my
desktop applications - especially email. One thing is absolutely
certain...once I committed to using linux exclusively...learning to live
with it when I could just double hit the control key on my keyboard and
switch into Windows, that is when I began learning linux, even though I
have had servers running it for years. 

Since I had my mail server and my procmail scripts already in place, a
mail client only need to be reasonably adept at handling an imap
account. I therefore use Evolution on linux, Outlook 2000 on my Windows
computer, Eudora on my Macintosh OSX machine and IMP when I am out of my
home/office and they all function pretty much the same. You are placing
entirely too much emphasis on a specific mail client application - I
understand, I've been there myself.

Where do you get your 90% figure - it can't be close to accurate even if
they give it away for free on their march towards total domination.

As for David calling Outlook Express broken - it is broken if you
consider the way it handles the signing. There is a standard and
apparently Microsoft chooses not to implement it correctly. That isn't
exactly user friendly. 

Craig

On Wed, 2002-09-25 at 05:48, Tom Achtenberg wrote:
> This still does not explain why you feel the need to sigh the message in the
> first place.  As for my client, yes I am on a Windows machine and using
> Outlook Express 6.  I have not found a stable Linux client that is as good
> or user friendly and that includes Evolution.  When over 90% of the users
> use a client that works in a certain way, that is the norm and I would not
> call it "broken" because it does not perform a needless function a certain
> way.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Mandala" <davidm@them.com>
> To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 9:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Free Software for m$
> 
> 
> I am guessing your email client is broken, I'll bet if you were to sign
> something it would not put the mime type in the email properly. There
> are several email clients that suffer from this.
> 
> Myself I use Evolution which correctly shows the message and does not
> require me to open an attachment. Are you using a windows machine? With
> a Microsoft client I'm sure, many of those are known to be flawed.
> Perhaps you might want to get a better more correct client.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Davidm
> 
> On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 21:08, Tom Achtenberg wrote:
> > I see many other signed messages without having to open attachments.  His
> > get deleted unread because of it.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Mandala" <davidm@them.com>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 6:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: Free Software for m$
> >
> >
> > That is because he is signing them. That is the correct way a signed
> > email should look.
> >
> > On Tue, 2002-09-24 at 05:26, Tom Achtenberg wrote:
> > > Derek, your posts are coming through as text attachments to a blank
> > message.
> > > You might want to fix that.
> > >