Catch-22!
Lee Levine
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21 Oct 2002 09:12:10 +0000
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*GAK!*
On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 10:22, George Toft wrote:
Unix is simply a different way if thinking. Once you make the
transition, you will find Windows very irritating and hard to use. I
recently encountered a problem that had to be solved using Windows, and
I spent over 3 hours on the solution, including the time to mail to a
list and ask for advice. This was a 10 second (because I type slow)
solution under Unix.
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Have patience. It took me 4 months to make the transition, and this wa=
s
while I was working full-time, and going to college. Border's made a
few bucks off me as I bought (or read in the store) every Linux book
they had. I was motivated - my Windows machine blue-screened about onc=
e
per hour (range was 5 minutes to 3 hours, with the median at 1 hour).=20
53 Windows reinstalls with various configurations, including changing
out every piece of hardware had no effect. When I changed the OS, I
stopped having problems.
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After making the transition, I needed to rewrite an old Visual Basic
application I had running under Windows. That app tooke me 30 hours to
write using VB. It took me 3 hours to write using Tcl with the book
open learning as I wrote it. This was more than just a translation or =
a
port - I was rewriting it from scratch and memory.
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Hang in there.
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George
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> Taliesin MacAran wrote:
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> That gets me Can't open perl script "mcpan": No such file or director=
y
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> *SIGH*
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> I have the feeling that I'm too dumb to use Linux.
> This is not the first time I've felt this way.
> Guess I'm not enuff of a 'puter Geek.
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> Lee
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> On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 22:58, Craig White wrote:
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> as root - try
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> perl mcpan -e 'install modules Test::Harness'
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> Craig
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> Beware of what you speak, for indeed the words we speak make shadows
> of what is to come, and by speaking them we bring them to pass.
> -- Taliesin, The Merlin of Britain
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On Mon, 2002-10-21 at 10:22, George Toft wrote:
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<PRE><FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>Unix is simply a different=
way if thinking. Once you make the</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>transition, you will find Windo=
ws very irritating and hard to use. I</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>recently encountered a problem =
that had to be solved using Windows, and</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>I spent over 3 hours on the sol=
ution, including the time to mail to a</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>list and ask for advice. This =
was a 10 second (because I type slow)</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>solution under Unix.</FONT></FO=
NT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>Have patience. It took me 4 mo=
nths to make the transition, and this was</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>while I was working full-time, =
and going to college. Border's made a</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>few bucks off me as I bought (o=
r read in the store) every Linux book</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>they had. I was motivated - my=
Windows machine blue-screened about once</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>per hour (range was 5 minutes t=
o 3 hours, with the median at 1 hour). </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>53 Windows reinstalls with vari=
ous configurations, including changing</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>out every piece of hardware had=
no effect. When I changed the OS, I</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>stopped having problems.</FONT>=
</FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>After making the transition, I =
needed to rewrite an old Visual Basic</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>application I had running under=
Windows. That app tooke me 30 hours to</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>write using VB. It took me 3 h=
ours to write using Tcl with the book</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>open learning as I wrote it. T=
his was more than just a translation or a</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>port - I was rewriting it from =
scratch and memory.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>Hang in there.</FONT></FONT></I=
>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>George</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I></FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> Taliesin MacAran wrote:</F=
ONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> That gets me Can't open pe=
rl script "mcpan": No such file or directory</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> *SIGH*</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> I have the feeling that I'=
m too dumb to use Linux.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> This is not the first time=
I've felt this way.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> Guess I'm not enuff of a '=
puter Geek.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> Lee</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 22:5=
8, Craig White wrote:</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> as root - try</FONT><=
/FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> perl mcpan -e 'instal=
l modules Test::Harness'</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> Craig</FONT></FONT></=
I>
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<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> --</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> --</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> Taliesin MacAran</FONT></F=
ONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> Visit my website at http:/=
/kd7eth.net</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> Beware of what you speak, =
for indeed the words we speak make shadows</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> of what is to come, and by=
speaking them we bring them to pass.</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> -- Taliesin, The Merlin of=
Britain</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> batlh biHeghjaj! Heghle'ne=
H QaQ jajvam!</FONT></FONT></I>
<FONT COLOR=3D"#ff0000"><FONT SIZE=3D"3"><I>> </FONT></FONT></I>
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