flame-bait contra Re: anti dot-net spew

Nancy Sollars plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Tue, 5 Mar 2002 02:03:25 -0700


If it has been read i guess prices of nice Alpha kit will drop ( Hopefully )

will help with my private cluster project ..

PVM Pov runs like a dream already but a couple additional Alpha's will
always help :)

Nige

----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Parrish" <cparrish@cox.net>
To: "Plug-discuss" <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:58 AM
Subject: Re: flame-bait contra Re: anti dot-net spew


> I think Digtal has done that for us. Now that I have a Alpha I'm excited
> to see what I can do with it. however I don't expect there will be
> anymore after this year (hopefully sledgehammer and other 64 bit archs
> will emerge).
>
> Carl P.
>
> On Tue, 2002-03-05 at 00:47, Nancy Sollars wrote:
> > not sure if Alpha is dead or no .. still alot of cluster solutions using
> > them ..
> >
> > I guess its application area is rather narrow but i would'nt read the
Alpha
> > its last rights yet
> >
> > Nige
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Trent Shipley" <tcshipley@earthlink.net>
> > To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 12:40 AM
> > Subject: Re: flame-bait contra Re: anti dot-net spew
> >
> >
> > > What does a bargain-basement fab that produces competitive 64-bit CPUs
> > cost
> > > anyway?
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 05 March 2002 00:04, you wrote:
> > > > TI is going to be producing the Sparc Ultra III for Sun.  Alpha is
Dead
> > or
> > > > dying.  AMD is about to (or has) release the Sledgehammer, their
> > competitor
> > > > for the 64-bit world.  Wouldn't surprise me if Motorola got out of
the
> > > > Desktop world, but probably not while Apple is selling the systems.
> > It's
> > > > gonna be fun to watch AMD and Intel going head-to-head in the 64-bit
> > world.
> > > >  As long as AMD stays in the market, Intel has nothing to fear from
Big
> > Bad
> > > > Uncle Sam coming after it for being a Monopoly, but of course Intel
> > hasn't
> > > > done the things that Microsoft did to get their monopoly (or am I
> > wrong?).
> > > >
> > > > > I'm not certain the "only runs on Intel" is much of a distinction.
As
> > > > > far as I know Itanium will be the only chip in its league.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cost of development and building a fab is getting just to high for
> > there
> > > > > to be more than one producer.  IBM, HP, and Compaq are getting out
of
> > the
> > > > > CPU biz.  Motorolla probably will too.  Don't know about SUN.
> > > > >
> > > > > As for having to upgrade every three years, aren't you the one who
> > says
> > > > > the cost of hardware and the OS is "irrelevant"?
> > > > >
> > > >
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