Windows and Linux

Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:12:20 -0400

You could download the RPM, then use a Gnutella client to search for
"vmware serial" and see what pops up.  This, however, goes against why
I buy retail distros - it's cool to support a company that makes 
Linux products.  I spent Thousands of $$$ on Windows crap just to
get what's on a Linux distro for under $100.  Quite a bit of my
Windows $$$ went for clean up software, stabilizing software, and
anti-virus software - none of which is necessary under Linux.

This page still shows $299:
https://www.vmware.com/request_processor?nextPage=/vmwarestore/newstore/category.jsp&action=CATALOG.GETGROUPS&application=store&ProductGroupCodes=WKST3-WIN,WKST3-LX

The flexibility is wonderful.  I use it to create testbeds that
I can destroy.  I have a copy of my World Famous (well, it will be)
Firewall that I pound.  I verified my backup procedure by restoring
the backup to a vmware instance - including disk partitioning.  I 
have a copy of Win95, that does my taxes, and some avi -> mpeg 
conversions for me.  I have a full e-commerce server set up.  If I 
totally hose any of them, I restore the image from backup, and 
restart it.  Trying this on real hardware is not really feasible.

George

Nathan England wrote:
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> Ouch!
> That's a little our of my price range!
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> Am Dienstag 11 Juni 2002 04:39 vormittags schrieb George Toft:
> > Hi Nathan,
> >
> > The price for vmware is $299.
> >
> > George
> >
> > Nathan England wrote:
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> > > George,
> > > How much did you pay for vmware?
> > >
> > > Am Montag 10 Juni 2002 07:10 nachmittags schrieb George Toft:
> > > > My experience with vmware is very positive.  Issues with vmware:
> > > > - I cannot listen to Internet Radio at kccnfm100.com.  Even with four
> > > > new software
> > > > downloads, three reboots (virtual), and 2 crashes, all I got was
> > > > static. - vmware does not do streaming media via USB.  Want to use a
> > > > USB camera?  Forget it.
> > > > - vmware with sound is usually preceeded with a loud pop.
> > > > - vmware does not support directx very well (if at all).
> > > >
> > > > Other than that, it lets me do my taxes, browse using IE 5.5, and gives
> > > > me blue screens,
> > > > just like the real thing.
> > > >
> > > > George
> > > >
> > > > Mike Porter wrote:
> > > > > Ok, this is intriguing to me.  I am looking to migrate my house over
> > > > > to Linux, but I have some apps for which I cannot find comparable
> > > > > *nix substitutes. (Believe it or not, the request to move torward
> > > > > Linux is at my wife's request)
> > > > >
> > > > > So, those who have experienced VMware, win4lin, and the like, can you
> > > > > offer me your best suggestions as far as which you prefer and which
> > > > > flavor of Linux you believe is most solid with your choice?  Also,
> > > > > any gotchas that you can think of would be most helpful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, has anyone run into problems with accessing Windows only
> > > > > devices using either of these options?
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Derek Neighbors [mailto:derek@gnue.org]
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 9:36 PM
> > > > > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > > > Cc: punkmmiv@cox.net
> > > > > Subject: Re: Windows and Linux
> > > > >
> > > > > On 26 May 2002 22:44:49 -0700
> > > > >
> > > > > Matt <punkmmiv@cox.net> wrote:
> > > > > > I know that Windows and Linux are supposed to operate pretty well
> > > > > > together, but the only articles I've read are about installing
> > > > > > Linux once Windows is already there. I'm running a pure SuSE 8.0
> > > > > > box and I was wondering if it's possible to install Windows on it
> > > > > > while still being able to use my current install?
> > > > >
> > > > > Try win4lin.  It lets you run windows as a window inside your
> > > > > GNU/Linux environment.  Unlike VMWare and friends it is not a VM.
> > > > > Also, unlike WINE it actually works and works well.  It will even let
> > > > > windows use (read/write) to your GNU/Linux file systems and such.  It
> > > > > is not free, but neither is M$ Windows (so I assume you dont have a
> > > > > problem with that) and it is by far the best way to 'suffer' M$ while
> > > > > not having to 'leave' a real operating system.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Derek
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