Achieving small victories

Digital Wokan plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:00:27 -0700 

Looking through what I have so far, I can create a simple to use install CD if 
I drop some of the less newbie oriented versions.  I was thinking of dropping 
the Solaris versions, the MadeInLinux RPM, the LinuxPPC, and the OSX (being 
only a development release) version.

That would leave me with the Intel Linux tarball (which I will uncompress), 
the Helix, Mandrake, and SuSE RPMs, and the Windows Install (which I am still 
going to create an autorun.inf for).

At the moment, I'm at 765MB, so I don't *have* to drop all the versions I've 
listed.  If anyone wishes to suggest which of the potential removals I should 
keep, I'm open to suggestions.

On Friday 12 July 2002 15:28, Digital Wokan wrote:
> Already have those, Linux, Solaris, and Windows versions.  Even snagged the
> development version for OSX they had.  Source tarballs, too.  I'm trying to
> get as comprehensive a collection as possible to make it as useful as
> possible for users checking it out from a library.  I might unzip the
> Windows version and create an autorun to start it just to make it even
> easier on the Windows users who are used to CD-based installs just popping
> up.
>
> If we want to promote the software, we have to do more than just say "here
> you go" and hope they can figure it out.
>
> On Friday 12 July 2002 22:20, Matt Alexander wrote:
> > openoffice.org has .tar.gz binaries which should work on all the
> > platforms you listed.
> >
> > On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, Digital Wokan wrote:
> > > Okay, this was not as easy a task as I expected.  What I've run into so
> > > far: 1. Mandrake and MadeInLinux are the only distros with RPMs
> > > available on RPMFind.net.
> > > 2. XimianGnome has an OOo RPM, which I assume will work well with
> > > RedHat, but I didn't want to label the folder for that RPM for RedHat
> > > use. 3.  Debian packages are not ready either.  (Some kind of issue
> > > regarding stlport4/GCC2.x vs stlport4.5/GCC3.x.)
> > > 4.  I'm still hunting.  Found the SuSE 8.0 RPM for OOo 641 on
> > > ftp.sunet.se. Seeing if any others are there.
> > >
> > > On Friday 12 July 2002 11:46, Digital Wokan wrote:
> > > > I like the OpenOffice CD idea the more I hear it.  I'm going to start
> > > > finding all the versions of OpenOffice I can (RPMs for each of the
> > > > RPM distros, Debs, source, Windows, etc.)  I've got the room to spare
> > > > at the moment, and I'm on cable, so it's time I put the bandwidth to
> > > > use for a good cause.  (I'm guess Quake didn't fall into that
> > > > category. :) )
> > > >
> > > > On Friday 12 July 2002 10:26, Matt Alexander wrote:
> > > > > I see PLUG as having two major components.  One, as a support group
> > > > > for its members, and two, as an action group for promoting the use
> > > > > of Free software in our community.
> > > > >
> > > > > Maricopa County is a good target, and I think we'll be successful,
> > > > > but it's going to take some time.  Right now, I think it's
> > > > > important for us to also focus our energies on smaller fish.  With
> > > > > enough group participation, we should be able to have regular
> > > > > success stories at each meeting.  Maybe have a prize for the PLUG
> > > > > member that converts the most organizations each month, like, say,
> > > > > a Delphi 5 CD for Windows NT (you had to be at the meeting last
> > > > > night for this to be funny...  or not funny.).  So, let's begin
> > > > > targeting various organizations that would be relatively easy to
> > > > > migrate over to Free software.  Several non-profit organizations
> > > > > were mentioned last night, so lets start with them.  And as was
> > > > > mentioned last night several times, getting Windows users
> > > > > comfortable with OpenOffice, Mozilla, etc., will go a long way
> > > > > towards easing their transition to Linux.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Libraries Part I
> > > > > Make free CDs w/ software that runs on both Windows & Linux, such
> > > > > as OpenOffice, Mozilla, Gimp, etc., available for checkout.  Make
> > > > > it clear that people can install this software without any
> > > > > licensing restrictions on as many computers as they want to. 
> > > > > Include PLUG info with each CD, as well as brochures about PLUG on
> > > > > a stand by the software.  Does PLUG have any existing informational
> > > > > brochures?  If not, we need to create some. Any volunteers?
> > > > >
> > > > > -Libraries Part II
> > > > > LTSP for computer labs.
> > > > >
> > > > > The libraries should be an easy way to prove the success of our
> > > > > software/setup.  We can then use the libraries as examples when
> > > > > approaching other larger organizations.
> > > > > Here is a possible outline for approaching local libraries (please
> > > > > suggest any modifications for improvement):
> > > > >
> > > > > (1)  Collect information on current software that can be checked
> > > > > out. Collect information on current computing uses within the
> > > > > library. (2)  Contact libraries and discuss our purpose and
> > > > > motivations.  Ask if they'd be willing to accept free software
> > > > > donations for checkout. (3)  Discuss the possibilities of setting
> > > > > up a Linux Terminal Server and several clients for use within the
> > > > > library.  Explain the benefits, etc. Give a demonstration.  Explore
> > > > > options for any additional hardware needs. (4)  Setup an LTSP lab
> > > > > and give basic training in administration and client-side use to
> > > > > the librarians. (5)  Be available for emergencies?
> > > > >
> > > > > We should be contacting as many small non-profits, schools, and
> > > > > other financially strapped groups as possible, and hand them CDs
> > > > > with OpenOffice, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > As individuals, we should give (and help install) OpenOffice on any
> > > > > computer that we can our hands on.  Make it clear to the user that
> > > > > they can (and should) install it on all of their additional
> > > > > computers, and also encourage them to loan the CD to their friends
> > > > > and families as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > ASU and the various community colleges in our area would be an
> > > > > excellent venue for getting OpenOffice into more users' hands. 
> > > > > Maybe have CDs available in the bookstore?  Maybe have CDs
> > > > > available in the computer labs?  Maybe instructors could give
> > > > > students the URL for OpenOffice and encourage them to use it?  Is
> > > > > there anyone that's currently a student that has some good
> > > > > suggestions on getting more students to use OpenOffice?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hand out OpenOffice CDs to your coworkers.
> > > > >
> > > > > Hans mentioned that he tried to apply for a job at Maricopa County,
> > > > > but couldn't because of the outdated Acrobat plugin for Linux. 
> > > > > Hans, buddy, find a Windows system and apply.  If you could get
> > > > > hired working for the county, we'd be unstoppable.  ;-) 
> > > > > BWAAAHAAAHAAA!!! ~M
> > > > >
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