OT: The new iMac!
Furmanek, Greg
plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:30:08 -0500
Thank you. Well summarized. I think this is one of the
least estetic designs of a desktop I have ever seen.
yuck.....
Greg
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay [mailto:jay@kinetic.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:09 AM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: OT: The new iMac!
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> Heh, that's pretty good. :) I do have to admit though, I really don't
> like the new iMac design. I like the concept, I *really* like
> the screen
> (except for the size), and I like the specs on the machine.
> However, that
> "breast implant with an Apple logo" they used for a base just doesn't
> impress me. :)
>
> ~Jay
>
>
>
> On 7 Jan 2002, Todd Hought wrote:
>
> > I can certainly attest to that, that Powerbook of yours is
> dead sexy.
> > and every time I go to fry's for something, I find myself
> drawn to those
> > nifty macs, they're just smooth, makes me wanna buy one, if
> not for me,
> > for my wife, since she does most of the graphics stuff around here.
> >
> > However, I cannot help but put this in here, for those who
> may or may
> > not have seen it. :-)
> >
> > http://www.bbspot.com/News/2002/01/oooh.html
> >
> > -T
> > On Mon, 2002-01-07 at 22:58, Jay wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > A couple points...
> > >
> > > * I used Apple products exclusively from 1979 (Apple ][)
> through the late
> > > 80's. Then Apple got boring and fell behind the pack.
> > >
> > > * I have been a Linux zealot since 1995 and have used it
> exclusively for
> > > both servers and desktops since (although I do have VM
> Ware for a couple
> > > of Windows apps, but only run it once a month or so). I
> have mainly used
> > > Slackware, although relatively recently I've started
> using Mandrake.
> > >
> > > * About three or four months ago, I just couldn't resist
> the Mac OSX
> > > "urge" any longer and went to the Apple Store in Chandler
> and bought a
> > > Titanium PowerBook G4.
> > >
> > > * In a matter of HOURS, I was instantly re-converted to
> an Apple zealot
> > > for the desktop. I'll still use Linux and *BSD for
> servers, but ANY
> > > desktop/portable products I buy from now on will be 100%
> Apple and OSX.
> > >
> > > The early OSX releases were kinda' slow sometimes (OSX
> loves RAM, but hey,
> > > it's cheap these days). However, current OSX releases
> absolutely 100% KICK
> > > ASS - no question about it. I know of at least one other
> long-time Linux
> > > zealot, now OSX-on-the-desktop/portable zealot, on this
> list. In reading
> > > online forums, mailing lists, etc... it is quite clear
> that GEEKS LOVE OSX
> > > and I couldn't agree more.
> > >
> > > The system is just so perfectly seamless and beautiful.
> Everything always
> > > just works. No drivers, no hours of obscure configs, no
> library problems,
> > > no muss, no fuss. I can't stress this enough - everything
> just works -
> > > period.
> > >
> > > A couple of examples...
> > >
> > > * I bought a new 802.11b base station. Getting my TiPB
> online with it -
> > > easy - turn on the laptop. That's it. OSX auto-finds the
> basestation,
> > > reconfigures the OS's networking configs, all instantly
> and automagically.
> > >
> > > * I took a bunch of pictures with my Sony digital camera
> and I needed to
> > > get them onto my computer. How do I do that with OSX? It
> was pretty tough
> > > - not only did I have to turn on the laptop, but I also
> had to plug in the
> > > camera's USB cable (I know, horribly complicated, eh? :).
> That's it - OSX
> > > recognized the camera, mounted it as an external drive,
> placed an icon on
> > > my desktop, launched the Image Capture app, and
> downloaded all my pics to
> > > my Pictures folder - all automagically (remember, all I
> did was turn on
> > > the laptop and plug in the camera).
> > >
> > > * I'm sitting at Coffee Plantation the other day and
> thought to myself,
> > > "Self, wouldn't it be neat-o if I could get online with
> my cell phone
> > > right now?" The obvious answer was "yes, that would be
> neat-o." What did I
> > > have to do to accomplish this mess (my cell phone came
> with a PC data
> > > cable). I plugged in my cell phone to my laptop. THAT'S
> IT! OSX recognized
> > > the device and automatically figured out that it could
> act as a modem. I
> > > clicked on the network connection icon, typed in my ISP's
> phone number,
> > > typed in my username and password (OSX can't quite guess
> those things
> > > automagically :), and clicked "Connect." A few seconds later, I'm
> > > connected. No muss, no fuss.
> > >
> > > * Uh oh, someone emailed me a MS Word/Excel/PowerPoint
> document... now
> > > what. Oh! I know! I double clicked it...that's it! Yes,
> like it or not, MS
> > > Office controls the business world. And yes, MS Office
> runs NATIVE in OSX!
> > >
> > > * Now I want to "get my hands dirty" and open a Bash
> shell, launch Vi
> > > (or Emacs, but I'm not into self-mutilation) and hack up a quick
> > > shell/perl/python/ruby/whatever script and make it a cron
> job. Hey, no
> > > problem! OSX is built on a FULL COMPLETE FreeBSD system.
> Not only that,
> > > but you have total access to it. Bash? Yup. Cron? Yup.
> Python? Yup.
> > > Sendmail? Yup. Apache? Yup. Vi? Yup. Pine? Yup. ls? Yup.
> grep? Yup. Bind?
> > > Yup. MySQL? Yup. SSH(d)? Yup. I could go on forever...you
> get the point -
> > > IT IS ALL THERE.
> > >
> > > * Although OSX has tons of commercial apps support (and
> more every day),
> > > let's say I prefer Gimp to Photoshop. No problem there
> either. I can run
> > > XFree86 at the same time (even interleaved with) the OSX
> GUI (Aqua /
> > > Quartz). That's right - I can run almost all the XFree86
> apps right there
> > > NATIVE on OSX. Gnome? Yup. Abiword? Yup. StarOffice? Yup.
> Xeyes? Yup.
> > > XTerm? Yup. GNUCash? Yup. TuxRacer? Yup. You get the
> point - they're all
> > > there. Additionally, just like any other XFree86
> implementation, I can run
> > > XFree86 apps from my Linux box over the network on my OSX
> XFree86 server.
> > >
> > > * Just a side note, if you have used Linux for a while,
> no doubt you've
> > > seen the "less than readable" fonts that some XFree86 apps like to
> > > produce. Personally, I absolutely LOVE a good looking screen with
> > > excellent fonts and readability. OSX borrowed an
> incredible point from
> > > NeXT here - the entire GUI and rendering engine is all
> PDF. Everything is
> > > antialiased, sharp, and super clean looking. Using OSX is
> great on my
> > > eyes and REALLY is FUN and ENJOYABLE (is that sadistic?)
> to look at. It
> > > really is a great experience to read documents/web
> > > sites/email/usenet/etc... on OSX. Everything just looks georgeous.
> > >
> > > Did I mention that IT IS ALL THERE (full UNIX and
> seamless GUI and killer
> > > apps) and that EVERYTHING just simply works? :) (Of
> course, the UNIX
> > > system gives you the ability to do everything manually
> and "break" it if
> > > you want to. All the power is there.)
> > >
> > > No question about it; OSX is geek paradise. Period. :)
> > >
> > > ~Jay
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002, Kevin Brown wrote:
> > >
> > > > Don't know much about Macs either since almost all my
> exp is with Intel based
> > > > hardware. I guess you wouldn't, but then again, I like
> a box where I can.
> > > >
> > > > > Maybe I just don't know anything about Macs, but, do
> you really upgrade them
> > > > > that much?
> > > >
> > > > > > Very weird looking IMO. Probably runs OSX. Guess
> the nice thing is the
> > > > > lack of
> > > > > > wires coming out of it, but would probably not much
> in the way of internal
> > > > > > upgrades do to the oddly shaped case.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.apple.com/imac/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you haven't seen the new iMac check it out...
> very cool!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://www.apple.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You maybe asking why I posted this on a Linux
> list. I run Debian Linux
> > > > > > > on my powerbook along with Mac OS (Occasionally I
> do graphic design and
> > > > > > > I'm too attached to all my fonts, Photoshop
> filters, and other personal
> > > > > > > stuff that I'm not ready to deal with because I
> can't afford psychiatric
> > > > > > > help... he he) Linux on a mac is very cool cause
> of the speed and
> > > > > > > performance and I'm dying to run it on a G4...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I also think OS X is not too bad either... but
> it's super slow and
> > > > > > > crashes... but fun to play with...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyways check it out or don't...
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> > >
> > >
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