VPN problems

David Mandala plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Mon, 7 Jan 2002 16:09:44 -0700


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The MSN DSL "modem" is infact doing NAT, I went to the home page and it is
infact listed there, and they will not help you turn it off! And yes it will
play hell with any VPN's, and no they do not as yet support VPN passthrough.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Achtenberg [mailto:Tom.Achtenberg@fh.org]
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:45 PM
> To: 'PLUG Email list'
> Subject: VPN problems
> 
> 
> I'm passing this on for my boss.  It has to do with does 
> Qwest do address translation on their DSL accounts with MSN 
> ISP.  If anyone here has any info it would be a help.
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> 
> Do the new MSN DSL "modems" do NAT translation, or are they 
> real routers?
> 
> If MSN is selling NAT'd internet, there is a good chance that 
> it will not work with a VPN of any kind, unless the routers 
> support "VPN Passthrough". This concurs with what the logs 
> seem to indicate (the VPN tunnel is brought up, but GRE 
> traffic does not get passed).
> 
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>The MSN DSL &quot;modem&quot; is infact doing NAT, I =
went to the home page and it is infact listed there, and they will not =
help you turn it off! And yes it will play hell with any VPN's, and no =
they do not as yet support VPN passthrough.</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Tom Achtenberg [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:Tom.Achtenberg@fh.org">mailto:Tom.Achtenberg@fh.org</A>]<=
/FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 1:45 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: 'PLUG Email list'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: VPN problems</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I'm passing this on for my boss.&nbsp; It has =
to do with does </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Qwest do address translation on their DSL =
accounts with MSN </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ISP.&nbsp; If anyone here has any info it would =
be a help.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; =
--------------------------------------------------------------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; =
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Do the new MSN DSL &quot;modems&quot; do NAT =
translation, or are they </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; real routers?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; If MSN is selling NAT'd internet, there is a =
good chance that </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; it will not work with a VPN of any kind, unless =
the routers </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; support &quot;VPN Passthrough&quot;. This =
concurs with what the logs </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; seem to indicate (the VPN tunnel is brought up, =
but GRE </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; traffic does not get passed).</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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your </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you =
use Netscape to </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; write mail.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
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