Why Linux will win and Micro$oft will lose

Jeff Barker plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:57:31 -0700


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Hey, uh....  that book doesn't happen to be "Open Source" does it?

:)

At 08:44 PM 11/10/2001, you wrote:
>Changing the issue just slightly
>
>Has any of you out there taken time to read Linus's book " Just for fun "
>???
>
>if you have ul know its a searing enditement into the mind of the Linux
>creator mixed in with some very
>comical outsets to keep the reader interested.
>
>If not i would read it cuz to be honest i like some of his idea's i did'nt
>get the same buz at all from the book
>" The Road Ahead " by Bill Gates.
>
>just my thoughts tis all
>
>Nigel Sollars
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "George Toft" <george@georgetoft.com>
>To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
>Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 8:21 PM
>Subject: Re: Why Linux will win and Micro$oft will lose
>
>
>> Hi Carl,
>>
>> My Thesis was on the TCO for different workgroup servers.  For
>> servers, Linux is a no-brainer, if you have a competent admin.
>> For desktops, the link that Robert Leonard posted supports my
>> position quite well (thanks Robert).
>>
>> George
>>
>>
>> Carl Parrish wrote:
>> >
>> > George Toft wrote:
>> >
>> > > Joining the battle . . .
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Short version: Converting to Linux costs much, much more.  An
>> > > example is presented for a "hypothetical" local company converting
>> > > their desktop to Linux.  Result is that it will cost over
>> > > $900K - just to avoid a $150K license.
>> > >
>> >
>> > George,
>> > If you have links to that report please post it. Because Amazon, The
>> > Department of Justise, IDC and serveral small biz have *all* shown
>> > savings of 10's of thousands of dollars in TCO (millions for Amazon).
>> > That's why the NSA and Intel has taken hard looks at converting. And I
>> > can assure you right now IBM is NOT pushing Windoze. They still support
>> > it true but All of their sales agents have been told to spread the word
>> > about Linux.
>> >
>> > Carl P.
>> >
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Hey, uh....&nbsp; that book doesn't happen to be &quot;Open Source&quot;
does it?<br><br>
:)<br><br>
At 08:44 PM 11/10/2001, you wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Changing the issue just
slightly<br><br>
Has any of you out there taken time to read Linus's book &quot; Just for
fun &quot;<br>
???<br><br>
if you have ul know its a searing enditement into the mind of the
Linux<br>
creator mixed in with some very<br>
comical outsets to keep the reader interested.<br><br>
If not i would read it cuz to be honest i like some of his idea's i
did'nt<br>
get the same buz at all from the book<br>
&quot; The Road Ahead &quot; by Bill Gates.<br><br>
just my thoughts tis all<br><br>
Nigel Sollars<br><br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: &quot;George Toft&quot; &lt;george@georgetoft.com&gt;<br>
To: &lt;plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us&gt;<br>
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 8:21 PM<br>
Subject: Re: Why Linux will win and Micro$oft will lose<br><br>
<br>
&gt; Hi Carl,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My Thesis was on the TCO for different workgroup servers.&nbsp;
For<br>
&gt; servers, Linux is a no-brainer, if you have a competent admin.<br>
&gt; For desktops, the link that Robert Leonard posted supports my<br>
&gt; position quite well (thanks Robert).<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; George<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Carl Parrish wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; George Toft wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Joining the battle . . .<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Short version: Converting to Linux costs much, much
more.&nbsp; An<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; example is presented for a &quot;hypothetical&quot; local
company converting<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; their desktop to Linux.&nbsp; Result is that it will cost
over<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; $900K - just to avoid a $150K license.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; George,<br>
&gt; &gt; If you have links to that report please post it. Because
Amazon, The<br>
&gt; &gt; Department of Justise, IDC and serveral small biz have *all*
shown<br>
&gt; &gt; savings of 10's of thousands of dollars in TCO (millions for
Amazon).<br>
&gt; &gt; That's why the NSA and Intel has taken hard looks at
converting. And I<br>
&gt; &gt; can assure you right now IBM is NOT pushing Windoze. They still
support<br>
&gt; &gt; it true but All of their sales agents have been told to spread
the word<br>
&gt; &gt; about Linux.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Carl P.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; ________________________________________________<br>
&gt; &gt; See
<a href="http://plug.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml" eudora="autourl">http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml</a>
if your mail doesn't<br>
post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; PLUG-discuss mailing list&nbsp; -&nbsp; PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us<br>
&gt; &gt; <a href="http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss" eudora="autourl">http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss</a><br>
&gt; ________________________________________________<br>
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