Trouble sending email

W. E. Brooks plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
07 Nov 2001 08:23:38 -0700


I had a similiar problem sending mail thru earthlink/mindstring/netcom.
It's a long story but I will give you the short version.

1. I have email accounts with several ISP's. One of them is         
Earthlink. My main workstation (Mandrake Linux) has both a dial-up modem
and a Cable Modem connection(LAN).
2. I can connect to internet using dial-up or thru Cable Modem.
   I can receive email from all email accounts via dial-up or
           Cable Modem.
3. To send email thru Earthlink, I must use their dial-up number. I
cannot send thru Earthlink if I connect to internet thru
Cable Modem or another ISP. This is a feature to prevent spam.

4. Normally, I use the dial-up connection only if the Cable Modem
connection is down.If the Cable Modem conection goes down and I connect
using the dial-up and then the Cable Modem connection comes back up.
Which connection am I using? Well, it appears that if both connections
are up then the Cable Modem(LAN) will be used. This is good. But what if
I want to use the dial-up connection? To be sure the dial-up modem is
used I must physically disconnect the Cable Modem(LAN) wire. This is not
good but it works.
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I hope my story helps with your problem.

W. E.Brooks

On Tue, 2001-11-06 at 17:35, Rick Rosinski wrote:
> O.K.  I have tried almost all suggestions that were posted.  Telneting via 
> "telnet mail.mindspring.com 25" worked - said it connected and all.  THe 
> ping -c 4 worked fine, as did the nslookup command.  No jams anywhere.  I 
> have included the /etc/resolv.conf file if this helps.  I have also changed 
> my email address to borgking@mindspring.com rather than 
> rick@rickrosinski.com to see if that would help, but it failed also.  The 
> only things I haven't done yet was to try it through outlook express.  I 
> will try that before calling the techs back.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> BTW:  Thanks for all of the response!
> 
> 
> >From: "John Albee" <guesswho911@home.com>
> >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> >Subject: RE: Trouble sending email
> >Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:33:19 -0700
> >
> >I am not sure as to your level of computer experience, but you may want to
> >try a manual smtp connection to mail.mindspring.com using telnet.  There 
> >are
> >several tutorial on the net showing how to do this.  This may give you some
> >insite to your problem.
> >
> >John Albee
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Rick
> >Rosinski
> >Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:50 PM
> >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >Subject: Re: Trouble sending email
> >
> >
> >James,
> >
> >I try over and over again, resending the same message through the outbox.  
> >I
> >called customer suppport, and they gave me a new dial-up number, saying 
> >that
> >the old number wouldn't allow people to send email.  That didn't work.  He
> >told me to keep mail.mindspring.com since I am a mindspring subscriber.  I
> >receive mail just fine, but I can't send the mail no matter what.  I tried
> >many combinations of smtp - smtp.mindspring.com, mail.smtp.mindspring.com,
> >smtp.mail.mindspring.com, smtp.earthlink.net, mail.earthlink.net, every 
> >damn
> >thing.
> >
> >Any more ideas?
> >
> >Thanks for the help.
> >
> >
> > >From: James Durham <helody@jps.net>
> > >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > >Subject: Re: Trouble sending email
> > >Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:28:06 -0700
> > >
> > >
> > >Rick,
> > >     I have that same problem. I go to the outbox open the mail and try 
> >to
> > >send again. The problem is Earthlink has filters in place so you can only
> > >use
> > >there mail servers. So if you try to use another mail server it would
> > >continuely fail. I found that it fails for me the first time because it 
> >has
> > >to do all it's crap to verify the mail server I am connecting to. Then 
> >the
> > >second time I try to connect it works.
> > >
> > >    Allot of companies have started to take this same approach to 
> >stopping
> > >spam. It is getting very annoying.
> > >
> > >On Saturday 03 November 2001 04:25 am, you wrote:
> > > > I just found out that I can't send email through kmail anymore.  It 
> >says
> > > > that the smtp host couldn't be found.  I am an earthlink (formerly
> > > > mindspring) subscriber.  My "real" email address has mindspring.com.  
> >I
> > >was
> > > > using mail.mindspring.com for smtp.  That worked until recently (the
> > > > error). So, I checked the help pages on the web, and they want
> > > > smtp.earthlink.net. I tried that, and got the same error.  Nothing on 
> >my
> > > > system has been changed (especially KDE).  I kept the smtp port at 25 
> >as
> > >it
> > > > was before.  I also tried smtp.mindspring.com, mail.earthlink.net.
> > > >
> > > > And, I don't *DARE* try earthlink technical support - they always 
> >assume
> > > > they know more than you, and when you try asking them questions, like
> > >"What
> > > > SMTP port does your system use?", they'd answer the question with a
> > > > question, like what system and software am I using? - evading my
> > >question,
> > > > instead of them saying that "they don't know" - and they do not 
> >support
> > > > Linux (only Windows and Mac.)
> > > >
> > > > Please help!
> > > >
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