complicated router question....

[kyle]

But this is what i dont get... How come i can run a
file sharing program like bearshare or icq and ppl can
send me messages or download songs from me?

So somehow those applications are opening ports for
traffic to come in... but i dont know why or how. Even
where i work i cannot run a web server behind the
firewall but i can run bearshare and i punches right
thru the firewall to open up a port and where i work
we have one anal firewall.
-Kyle

--- Brian Cluff <brian@snaptek.com> wrote:
> Hmmm,  looks like you are fairly screwed.  Unless
> you can get into your DSL
> modem,  there really isn't any way for someone to
> get into your network,
> without tunneling a connection, but if you are gonna
> go though all the
> trouble of tunneling, you might as well put your web
> page on the server you
> are tunneling and save both you and the other
> provider the extra traffic.
> 
> If you can find a way into the DSL modem.  There
> will probably be some sort
> of setup for port forwarding.  With that, you tell
> the modem that when ever
> someone tried to go to it on port 80 to pass along
> the connection to the
> inside fake address of 192.168.0.x .
> 
> Try calling your DSL provider and ask them if there
> is anything you can do
> so that you can be able to get to you machine from
> the outside... for
> something like VNC or PC Anywhere.  That way it
> sounds like you only want to
> be able to get to stuff for work :)
> 
> Brian
> ----- Original Message -----
> 
> > None of my servers behind the firewall have real
> world
> > ip addresses tho... they are all like 192.168.10.x
> the
> > only real world ip address is the one of the dsl
> modem
> > which to my internal network looks like 10.5.0.1
> and
> > to the external it has a real ip addresss(the only
> way
> > i found it was to helo a smtp port that would tell
> me
> > who i am... traceroute doesnt reaveal it. it just
> > shows the 10.5.0.1) So how would i tell somebody
> to go
> > to my site? tell them the ip address of the dsl
> modem?
> > and then the port number i was running the server
> on?
> >
> > --- Brian Cluff <brian@snaptek.com> wrote:
> > > If they are blocking things like web traffic,
> they
> > > might only be blocking
> > > the incoming port 80.  If so, you should be able
> to
> > > just move the web server
> > > onto a different port, say 1999 and then all you
> > > would have to do is goto
> > > http://your_ip_or_domain.com:1999/  and that pop
> up
> > > any website you have.
> > >
> > > More than likely they arent blocking anything
> > > though.  You could probably
> > > get away with just running a web server as long
> as
> > > it never becomes high
> > > traffic.
> > >
> > > Brian Cluff
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > > > I have recently installed dsl at home. The dsl
> > > company
> > > > is very restrictive about stuff and they wont
> give
> > > me
> > > > the password to the dsl modem for
> > > administration... I
> > > > have an ip masq server connected to the modem
> > > (pppoe)
> > > > running to get all my computer on the
> internet.
> > > Now my
> > > > question is how can i or can i run any type of
> > > server
> > > > on my home network? I do not understand how i
> > > would
> > > > set it up to say run a web server that people
> > > could
> > > > reach from the internet. But then if nothing
> gets
> > > thru
> > > > how is it that stuff like bearshare and icq
> works?
> > > > Thank you an advance for helping me understand
> > > what i
> > > > hope is a basic concept :)
> > > > -Kyle
> > > >
> > > >
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