vi in hell mode, was RE: NSI... moving a domain

Furmanek, Greg Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com
Thu, 1 Mar 2001 15:46:56 -0500


If I just could get a class browser in my vi
I would be totally sold. 


-> -----Original Message-----
-> From: Nathan Saper [mailto:natedog@well.com]
-> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 10:24 AM
-> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
-> Subject: Re: vi in hell mode, was RE: NSI... moving a domain
-> 
-> 
-> As someone on comp.editors said, "I like VIM because, when I 
-> ask a question
-> in [comp.editors], I get a one-line answer.  With xemacs, I 
-> get a 1Kb lisp
-> script with bugs in it. ;-)"
-> 
-> On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 07:44:42AM -0700, sinck@ugive.com wrote:
-> > 
-> > \_ I still fumble around in vi - apparently the days of 
-> line editors have
-> > \_ finally escaped me. I think I probably couldn't use 
-> edlin anymore or
-> > \_ whatever that attrocious thing was that I used on VAX. 
-> Give me emacs  ;-)
-> > \_ 
-> > \_ With that, I'm clocking out and I'll leave the editor 
-> wars to everyone else.
-> > 
-> > Sancho!  My Sword!  My Armor!
-> > 
-> > [Yes! Your Grace.]
-> > 
-> > Oh, um, sorry.  Every now and again, I fire up vi after saying
-> > term=unknown.  Keeps me competent for when things get 
-> really bad.  :-)
-> 
-> Good idea.  That's one of the nicest things about vi: it 
-> ALWAYS works.
-> 
-> > On the flip side, emacs rules.  I've coded hooks so that 
-> when I commit
-> > a CGI file (either via CVS or RCS) it a) commits b) throws 
-> a http log
-> > message, and c) logs the update to my personal work 
-> history database.
-> > Beat that with a stick.
-> 
-> The same could be accomplished by writing some shell scripts 
-> and using "map"
-> and "au" commands in vim.  And with vim, you don't have to 
-> learn a whole new
-> language just to get things working.
-> 
-> "Emacs is a nice OS - but it lacks a good text editor.  
-> That's why I am
-> using Vim."
-> 
-> I think that sums it up.  Emacs tries to be an entire OS.  
-> It suffers from
-> the same disease that Microsoft does: Let's add as many 
-> features as we can,
-> so we can have one program that does everything!  If I want 
-> to read my mail,
-> I'll use a MUA; if I want to browse the web, I'll use a web 
-> browser.  I
-> don't need to do everything from within my text editor.
-> 
-> Having said that, I think the editor war is fairly silly.  I 
-> have my reasons for
-> using vi, you have your reasons for using Emacs.  What text 
-> editor to use is
-> a personal choice.
-> 
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