Mandrake 8 NIICE
Richard L. Proctor
plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Fri, 13 Apr 2001 10:32:42 -0700
What problems are you having with Windows?
Richard L. Proctor
Krystal Computer Services
480-699-3098
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PC Repairs & Upgrades
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sir Edward James William" <galvatron33@hotmail.com>
To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
Cc: <dannemiller@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2001 9:04 AM
Subject: Mandrake 8 NIICE
> I am in and out of Linux due to frustration of not getting theings the way
I
> want them
>
> I am about to exodus to Linux due to M$ Windows tightening freedom.
Frankly
> Im pissed. The only thing I need in linux now is for all my games to
emualte
> or somehow port over in the future. (i.e Everquest, Civilization 3,
Warcraft
> 3, Alpha Centauri we all love me..)
>
> Mandrake 8 is very easy to setup for its beta 3 form. My D-Ling Ethernet
> card does not work compared to Mandrake 7.2. Ati Radeon is finally
> supported. I am a happy camper. I LUVVV my Linux now. Mandrake was easier
to
> set up then win ME,2000 or any other OS i have worked with
> Slackware is a pain and Redhat is easy but lacks sometings (Redhat
> overrated)Its all the same though with Kernel and all. Im speaking on
> packagewise. If you are new to Linux I would recommend Mandrake.
>
> Just my too sends. Linux or bust
> PS that sucks M$ Xm wont support mp3's people are robbed if you ask me.
But
> whay would they do that. There is to much money for them in the lung run
for
> Mp'3 they might go out like apple will. (Arrogance and grip will get em)
> Mandrake should get advertized heavily in this act)
>
> Edward aka (Linux Thug)
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> >Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 13:47:20 -0700
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> >Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. RE: HELP (again) (Craig White)
> > 2. RE: Computer books store (Robert Leonard)
> > 3. Re: PLUG Presents meeting (Jim)
> > 4. RE: Computer books store (Craig White)
> > 5. Re: HELP (again) (Carl Parrish)
> > 6. iptables (Tyler Hall)
> > 7. RE: Zip drive issue (William Karl)
> > 8. Re: still haven't heard from anyone (re: ridearrangement?)
> >(proudhawk@uswestmail.net)
> > 9. Re: Computer books store (Lucas Vogel)
> > 10. Re: iptables (Lucas Vogel)
> >
> >--__--__--
> >
> >Message: 1
> >From: "Craig White" <craigwhite@azapple.com>
> >To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> >Subject: RE: HELP (again)
> >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:33:12 -0700
> >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >
> >
> >
> >----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|
> >- Craig White - PO Box 8634 - Scottsdale, Arizona - 85252
> >- e-mail address ................ - CraigWhite@AzApple.com
> >- world wide web address ........ - http://www.AzApple.com
> >- e-mail my pager address ....... - 6023779752@airtouch.net
> >- cellular phone ................ - (602) 377-9752
> >- voice/facsimile ............... - (480) 945-8445
> >----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Carl
> > > Parrish
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 12:37 PM
> > > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > Subject: Re: HELP (again)
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes I updated the motherboard. If I do an upgrade will it delete my
> > > partitions. Also the box was running RHat 6.2 and the only disk I can
> >seem
> > > to find is RHAT 7.0 since the new motherboard has USB connections
> > > I kind of
> > > want to switch to 7.0 anyways but when I get to diskduird <sp?> non of
> >my
> > > partitions are labled (even though I *know* I named them). Can I just
go
> > > though without formating any of my partitions?
> > >
> > > Carl sonotasystemadmin Parrish
> > >
> >--------
> >Yes, you can go thru without reformatting. Upgrade will not delete any
> >existing partitions.
> >
> >HOWEVER (assuming that you prefer new install to an 'upgrade')
> >
> >1 - reformatting ensures that junk isn't left over.
> >2 - if you can normally boot to linux - do so, type df and note which
path
> >belongs to each partition so it will be easy to decide which ones you can
> >reformat - i.e. /home, /var & /opt - if they are separate partitions, you
> >might skip the reformatting to presever the data.
> >
> >Craig
> >
> >
> >--__--__--
> >
> >Message: 2
> >From: "Robert Leonard" <rleonard@aprnet.com>
> >To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> >Subject: RE: Computer books store
> >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:41:04 -0700
> >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >
> >I have numerous books from the computer library, i used to stop in once a
> >month to her shop, she had an amazing diverse collection of great books
for
> >such a small store, I was sorry to see it go away.
> >
> >Am i going to feel guilty about going into *.megabookstore and bend a few
> >covers looking for a book that isn't a ldp rewrite or substandard info
> >written by a twit that hasn't written a line of production code, or
admin'd
> >a production server, and then NOT spend an extra 40%+ ????? Sorry you
> >have
> >been mistaken for someone who cares..............
> >
> >I prefer my $$$ to stay where it can do the most good, namely in my bank
> >account.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of
> >plug@arcticmail.com
> >Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:39 PM
> >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >Subject: Re: Computer books store
> >
> >
> >
> > > ...then i go to www.bookpool.com to make my purchases.
> >
> >Gee, I was wondering why Computer Library and so many
> >other local businesses have gone out of business.
> >
> ><RANT>
> >When a friend personally recommends a book to me, I'll
> >buy it online, sight unseen.
> >
> >When I'm not certain, and I need to "fondle" the book,
> >I gladly give (correction: used to give) Katherine the
> >few extra dollars. I consider this simply to be the
> >COST of book fondling.
> ></RANT>
> >
> >Anxiously awaiting the "buggy whip" rebuttal.
> >
> >
> >D
> >
> >* On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 12:39:39PM -0700, Robert Leonard wrote:
> > > I goto the bookstores to see feel and touch the books, to check
content
> >and
> > > completeness, then i go to www.bookpool.com to make my purchases.
> >
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> >
> >--__--__--
> >
> >Message: 3
> >From: Jim <farli@qwest.net>
> >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >Subject: Re: PLUG Presents meeting
> >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:43:48 -0700
> >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >
> >
> >Hmmmm.....another brain fart
> >
> >Tuesday
> >April 17
> >Bandersnatch
> >7:00 p.m.
> >
> >On Thursday 12 April 2001 11:04, you wrote:
> > > All right - no more discussion - Tuesday, April 11, 7:00-ish -
> > > Bandersnatch!
> > >
> > > On Thursday 12 April 2001 08:53, you wrote:
> > > > Looks like Monday is out and Tuesday is better, but I like the idea
of
> > > > Wednesday at Bandersnatch ( and yes, Carl - it is a REAL bar).
> > > >
> > > > Thoughts?
> >
> >--
> >Jim
> >
> >Bliss comes from within, ignorance from without
> >
> >--__--__--
> >
> >Message: 4
> >From: "Craig White" <craigwhite@azapple.com>
> >To: <plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us>
> >Subject: RE: Computer books store
> >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:41:55 -0700
> >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Alan
> > > Dayley
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 11:38 AM
> > > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > > Subject: Computer books store
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Now that Computer Library has gone away (snif!) I don't know
> > > where to go to
> > > get my computer content on dead tree media. Any recommendations?
> > >
> > > Alan
> >--------
> >Interesting topic since I was thinking about this and our discussion of
PHP
> >books. I went to Barnes & Noble (Pima/Shea) and to BookStar (Pavillions)
> >and
> >they didn't have much - I ended up buying PHP Quick and Easy - not an in
> >depth but very good with communicating core concepts - and security -
which
> >I really like (I'm still going thru it). Had I been at Borders, I might
> >have
> >gone for the 30% off PHP Core Programming - may still get it.
> >
> >I like the mainstream bookstores because it allows geeks like me to
> >circulate in the same arena as chicks - the problem is that these
> >bookstores
> >don't typically discount the computer books.
> >
> >Craig
> >
> >
> >--__--__--
> >
> >Message: 5
> >From: "Carl Parrish" <cparrish@home.com>
> >To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> >Subject: Re: HELP (again)
> >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 14:47:21 -0700
> >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >
> >Thanks everyone,
> >I called Hawke and he walked me though mounting the partitions inside of
> >the
> >rescure shell. From that I was able to relable each partition and I'm
going
> >though the upgrade right now. (cross ur fingers).
> >
> >Thanks again Hawke
> >Carl Parrish
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Craig White <craigwhite@azapple.com>
> >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> ><plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> >Date: Thursday, April 12, 2001 2:36 PM
> >Subject: RE: HELP (again)
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|
> > >- Craig White - PO Box 8634 - Scottsdale, Arizona - 85252
> > >- e-mail address ................ - CraigWhite@AzApple.com
> > >- world wide web address ........ - http://www.AzApple.com
> > >- e-mail my pager address ....... - 6023779752@airtouch.net
> > >- cellular phone ................ - (602) 377-9752
> > >- voice/facsimile ............... - (480) 945-8445
> > >----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > >> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Carl
> > >> Parrish
> > >> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 12:37 PM
> > >> To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
> > >> Subject: Re: HELP (again)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Yes I updated the motherboard. If I do an upgrade will it delete my
> > >> partitions. Also the box was running RHat 6.2 and the only disk I can
> >seem
> > >> to find is RHAT 7.0 since the new motherboard has USB connections
> > >> I kind of
> > >> want to switch to 7.0 anyways but when I get to diskduird <sp?> non
of
> >my
> > >> partitions are labled (even though I *know* I named them). Can I just
> >go
> > >> though without formating any of my partitions?
> > >>
> > >> Carl sonotasystemadmin Parrish
> > >>
> > >--------
> > >Yes, you can go thru without reformatting. Upgrade will not delete any
> > >existing partitions.
> > >
> > >HOWEVER (assuming that you prefer new install to an 'upgrade')
> > >
> > >1 - reformatting ensures that junk isn't left over.
> > >2 - if you can normally boot to linux - do so, type df and note which
> >path
> > >belongs to each partition so it will be easy to decide which ones you
can
> > >reformat - i.e. /home, /var & /opt - if they are separate partitions,
you
> > >might skip the reformatting to presever the data.
> > >
> > >Craig
> > >
> > >________________________________________________
> > >See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't
> >post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail.
> > >
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> > >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss
> >
> >
> >--__--__--
> >
> >Message: 6
> >From: "Tyler Hall" <plug@webFreaks.org>
> >To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> >Subject: iptables
> >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:35:06 -0700
> >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >
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> >Hey Guys,
> >
> >I installed Mandrake 8.0 Beta 3 today, and unfortunally they dont use =
> >ipchains anymore. They use iptables. But, I'm not familiar with it.
=
> >Can someone help me out. =20
> >
> >Right now, my ipchains look like:
> >
> >ipchains -A forward -s 90.0.0.0/0 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j MASQ
> >
> >Which says, all ips 90.0.0.0 to 90.0.0.* can go anywhere (as most of you
=
> >know)
> >
> >If anyone knows the exact syntax to make iptables do the same, please =
> >let me know. It's a work machine, and nobody can use the internet until
=
> >I get iptables to MASQ!
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Tyler
> >
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hey Guys,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I installed Mandrake 8.0 Beta 3 today, =
> >and=20
> >unfortunally they dont use ipchains anymore. They use=20
> >iptables. But, I'm not familiar with it. Can =
> >someone=20
> >help me out. </FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Right now, my ipchains look =
> >like:</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>ipchains -A forward -s 90.0.0.0/0 -d =
> >0.0.0.0/0 -j=20
> >MASQ</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Which says, all ips 90.0.0.0 to =
> >90.0.0.* can go=20
> >anywhere (as most of you know)</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If anyone knows the exact syntax to =
> >make iptables=20
> >do the same, please let me know. It's a work machine, and nobody =
> >can use=20
> >the internet until I get iptables to MASQ!</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Thanks in advance,</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Tyler</FONT></DIV>
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> >
> >--__--__--
> >
> >Message: 7
> >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 15:54:25 -0700
> >From: William Karl <k.karl@asu.edu>
> >Subject: RE: Zip drive issue
> >To: "'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'"
> > <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >
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> >
> >It's just an IDE CD-ROM. I know that for some CD-RWs, you need to load
SCSI
> >modules of some sort. This is just a straight up CD drive. Can't figure
out
> >why it seems to be loaded on a SCSI bus. The CD works though.
> >
> >Thanks, Kirt
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Donn Shumway [mailto:DShumway@hypercom.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:48 PM
> >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >Subject: Re: Zip drive issue
> >
> >
> >
> >Is the Primary device on the secondary channel an IDE CD-RW?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Donn Shumway
> >dshumway@hypercom.com
> >"Once the 'what' is decided, the 'how' always follows. We must not make
the
> >'how' an excuse for not
> >facing and accepting the 'what.'"
> >-- Pearl S. Buck
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >I have installed Progeny Linux RC 2 and then apt-get upgraded to the
> >commercial release. I'm
> >working on a Dell OptiPlex GX1. I'm trying to >figure out how to mount a
> >zip
> >drive under this
> >system. The zip drive is the slave device on the 2nd IDE channel making
it
> >/dev/hdd. So I type
> > >mount -t vfat /dev/hdd4 /zip and I get "mount: wrong fs type, bad
option,
> >bad superblock on
> >/dev/hdd4, or too many mounted file systems"
> >
> >
> > >I've also poked around on the CD and it's mounting /dev/scd0. Any ideas
> >would be a great help.
> >
> >
> > >Thanks, Kirt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >________________________________________________
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> ><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>It's just an IDE CD-ROM. I know that for some CD-RWs, =
> >you need to load SCSI modules of some sort. This is just a straight up =
> >CD drive. Can't figure out why it seems to be loaded on a SCSI bus. The =
> >CD works though.</FONT></P>
> >
> ><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Thanks, Kirt</FONT>
> ></P>
> >
> ><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Donn Shumway [<A =
> >HREF=3D"mailto:DShumway@hypercom.com">mailto:DShumway@hypercom.com</A>]<=
> >/FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 1:48 PM</FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us</FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: Re: Zip drive issue</FONT>
> ></P>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> >
> ><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Is the Primary device on the secondary channel an IDE =
> >CD-RW?</FONT>
> ></P>
> >
> ><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Regards,</FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Donn Shumway</FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>dshumway@hypercom.com</FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>"Once the 'what' is decided, the 'how' always =
> >follows. We must not make the 'how' an excuse for not</FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>facing and accepting the 'what.'"</FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>-- Pearl S. Buck</FONT>
> ></P>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> ><BR>
> >
> ><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>>I have installed Progeny Linux RC 2 and then =
> >apt-get upgraded to the commercial release. I'm</FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>working on a Dell OptiPlex GX1. I'm trying to =
> >>figure out how to mount a zip drive under this</FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>system. The zip drive is the slave device on the 2nd =
> >IDE channel making it /dev/hdd. So I type</FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>>mount -t vfat /dev/hdd4 /zip and I get =
> >"mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on</FONT>
> ><BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>/dev/hdd4, or too many mounted file =
> >systems"</FONT>
> ></P>
> ><BR>
> >
> ><P><FONT SIZE=3D2>>I've also poked around on the CD and it's =
> >mounting /dev/scd0. Any ideas would be a great help.</FONT>
> ></P>
> ><BR>
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> >Message: 8
> >Date: 12 Apr 2001 16:05:51 -0700
> >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >From: proudhawk@uswestmail.net
> >Subject: Re: still haven't heard from anyone (re: ridearrangement?)
> >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >
> >well,
> >savefor 1user(on the extreme east side) that I helped out earlier
> >(hello carl!), Ihave heard nothing on the phone of via e-mail about a
ride.
> >at is now 16:04 and I am getting concerned.
> >
> >is someonegoing to give me a ride or not?
> >
> >I don't mean to sound like I am about to have a panick attack here, but
> >this is
> >only 1 of a very few oportunities that I have to get out of the house and
> >do anything
> >remotely resembling a social activity.
> >
> >so, would someone please respond to my request?
> >
> >Hawke
> >602-548-6734
> >
> >
> >Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net
> >
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> >
> >Message: 9
> >From: "Lucas Vogel" <lucas7@home.com>
> >To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> >Subject: Re: Computer books store
> >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:10:41 -0700
> >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >
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> > > I like the mainstream bookstores because it allows geeks like me to
> > > circulate in the same arena as chicks - the problem is that these
> > > bookstores don't typically discount the computer books.
> > >
> > > Craig
> >
> >That's the price you pay to be able to shop around chicks :)
> >
> >Lucas "running to the bookstore" Vogel
> >
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> >Message: 10
> >From: "Lucas Vogel" <lucas7@home.com>
> >To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> >Subject: Re: iptables
> >Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 16:12:26 -0700
> >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> >
> >This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> >I don't use mandrake, but I'd recommend checking the Mandrake
> >documentation/website or freshmeat for a program that will autoconfig
> >most of it and give you a config file to deal with.
> >
> >HTH
> >- ----- Original Message -----=20
> >From: Tyler Hall=20
> >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us=20
> >Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:35 PM
> >Subject: iptables
> >
> >
> >Hey Guys,
> >
> >I installed Mandrake 8.0 Beta 3 today, and unfortunally they dont use
> >ipchains anymore. They use iptables. But, I'm not familiar with
> >it. Can someone help me out. =20
> >
> >Right now, my ipchains look like:
> >
> >ipchains -A forward -s 90.0.0.0/0 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j MASQ
> >
> >Which says, all ips 90.0.0.0 to 90.0.0.* can go anywhere (as most of
> >you know)
> >
> >If anyone knows the exact syntax to make iptables do the same, please
> >let me know. It's a work machine, and nobody can use the internet
> >until I get iptables to MASQ!
> >
> >Thanks in advance,
> >
> >Tyler
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I don't use mandrake, but I'd recommend
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> >will=20
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> ><DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HTH<BR>- ----- Original Message ----- =
> ><BR>From:=20
> >Tyler Hall <BR>To: <A=20
>
>href=3D"mailto:plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us">plug-discuss@lists.=
> >PLUG.phoenix.az.us</A>=20
> ><BR>Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2001 3:35 PM<BR>Subject: =
> >iptables</FONT></DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
> ><DIV><BR>Hey Guys,</DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV>I installed Mandrake 8.0 Beta 3 today, and unfortunally they dont=20
> >use<BR>ipchains anymore. They use iptables. But, I'm =
> >not=20
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> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV>Right now, my ipchains look like:</DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV>ipchains -A forward -s 90.0.0.0/0 -d 0.0.0.0/0 -j MASQ</DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV>Which says, all ips 90.0.0.0 to 90.0.0.* can go anywhere (as most =
> >of<BR>you=20
> >know)</DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV>If anyone knows the exact syntax to make iptables do the same,=20
> >please<BR>let me know. It's a work machine, and nobody can use the
=
> >
> >internet<BR>until I get iptables to MASQ!</DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV>Thanks in advance,</DIV>
> ><DIV> </DIV>
> ><DIV>Tyler</DIV>
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