I was wondering if there was any type of gui that would make the drawing of topologys easy. What I am looking for is something that has some built in 'icons' or 'images' for things like routers, switches, hubs, etc. I tried the Gimp thing, but to be honest, I am more of a Vi guy. Any help would be appreciated. Mike mgcon@getnet.com http://www.getnet.com/~mgcon Phoenix, AZ USA