I agree, Debian "Rocks". However, the guy brought up an interesting point: It would be nice to just install the programs which tend to security issues. At least that is how I interprted his comment. I too feel the same way: My system runs just fine, I would like to just update all programs which fix security issues. Just my 2cents Mike mgcon@getnet.com http://www.getnet.com/~mgcon Phoenix, AZ USA