UCITA passed in virginia

Thu, 17 Feb 2000 14:07:20 -0500

"Perhaps even more threatening is UCITA's role in establishing a liability
baseline for software publishers. Consumer advocates note with dismay that
the act's provisions free software publishers from any conceivable liability
from defects in their code; however, you must use UCITA's provisions as a
baseline in order to get this protection. Free software licenses such as the
GPL may become meaningless after UCITA, exposing program authors to
litigation. Since free software authors generally aren't wealthy, they will
withdraw their products rather than face protracted litigation. UCITA may
well have been designed from the get-go to eliminate the competitive threat
from free software--a necessary step, since free software is winning in the
marketplace." 

-----Original Message-----
From: Lucas Vogel [mailto:lvogel@exponent.com]
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 11:27 AM
To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
Subject: RE: UCITA passed in virginia

Considering the swarm of new public companies that stake their livelihood on
open-source software, do you really think that they'd make rules against it?
I don't think that's what this new bill is, otherwise there'd be a lot more
people than Ralph Nader(God bless that man!) protesting its inception into
law. 
	What I think the law IS saying is that companies like M$ will have a
tighter grip over people that buy their products, and what they do with
them. That's why it's referred to as a 'shrink-wrap' law.

Lucas Vogel

-----Original Message-----
From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of D.
Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2000 12:16 PM
To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
Subject: RE: UCITA passed in virginia

End result:  All Free, GPL, Artistic and BSD-licensed code will
suddenly become developed by "Anonymous."  Go sue the Internet.

So sad.

D

On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Furmanek, Greg wrote:

> Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 20:32:35 -0500
> From: "Furmanek, Greg" <Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com>
> Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> To: "'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'"
     <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> Subject: RE: UCITA passed in virginia
> 
> It makes developers liable for any code posted.
> So if someone uses software developed by you
> and looses money you are liable!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lucas Vogel [mailto:lucas7@home.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 6:20 PM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: UCITA passed in virginia
> 
> 
> Doesn't this law only apply to licensed software? If so, what do GPL
> users have to fear about? Or am I not getting it?
> 
> David Demland wrote:
> > 
> > I understand the feeling each of us may have. But do commits like this
> help
> > the cause? It would be better if we spent our time understand the bill
as
> it
> > was submitted to our House of Rep. and what we can do to inform our
> > political leaders about the impact of the bill. Two questions to
remember
> > about this 1 - What is the major goal and 2 - How do we achieve that
goal?
> > 
> > By the way does anyone have a copy of the bill or where I can get a copy
> of
> > the bill?
> > 
> > Thank You,
> > 
> > David Demland
> > Qa / Testing Manager
> > CADTEL Systems, Inc.
> > 11201 N. Tatum Ste. 200
> > Phoenix, AZ 85028
> > (602) 953-4888
> > FAX: (602) 953-4833
> > ddemland@cadtel.com
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Furmanek, Greg <Greg.Furmanek@hit.cendant.com>
> > To: 'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'
> > <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > Date: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 8:50 AM
> > Subject: RE: UCITA passed in virginia
> > 
> > >You also have to ask yourself:
> > >How much politicians know about computers??
> > >How much they got paid by M$??
> > >How many more states are going to support it??
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Rooster [mailto:dwbarker99@earthlink.net]
> > >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 8:40 AM
> > >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > >Subject: Re: UCITA passed in virginia
> > >
> > >
> > >well you've got to ask your self 2 things. 1. what does virginia know
> about
> > >computers? (everyone there i've dealt with needed major training, and
2.
> > how
> > >much were these people paid off for by m$?
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Robert Leonard" <robertbleonard@hotmail.com>
> > >To: <plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2000 12:15 AM
> > >Subject: UCITA passed in virginia
> > >
> > >
> > >> Looks like the ball is rolling, virginia passed UCITA unanimously.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> http://www.infoworld.com/articles/ec/xml/00/02/14/000214ecucita.xml
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