From plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org Mon Jan 29 09:45:15 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lurker@lists.phxlinux.org Delivered-To: lurker@lists.phxlinux.org Received: from phxlinux.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phxlinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C92932A0007; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 09:45:15 -0700 (MST) X-Original-To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Delivered-To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Received: from mail-qk0-f177.google.com (mail-qk0-f177.google.com [209.85.220.177]) by phxlinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5D9432A0006 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 09:45:13 -0700 (MST) Received: by mail-qk0-f177.google.com with SMTP id d21so6329385qkj.3 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:45:13 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=azloco-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=RpgNz85oexg6c5Gk3pdwLNYg/fGtQ7sKLJkaC96Pdqo=; b=i0mB7nsC3rM4dvbiQaTNc/nq3iq4xpi5Xale0Ca3MMG4/TQhq9O7IaDKP6y/s7JT0W LIEClJ1f38Vo/fUJDDqQJ3p2ocrwp8muo9i+vl2j7ixqvEvfaLCo0ph/vHB6ucB6VbE1 t+owNDGX/CbslZP2qQuUEzOwBpPM3T/BRhRz28oIyk5oZz1PJc9dGBCCF6asyJXtFL1m KeNn0aSfLUEvfIcSvEEckT4oryt5CgLk39NRFzj6L+D/4/hY1OG8sYyd7FSSZFVx5lLb wOF0dmqZRM38EBbS7tqmwNK5hbca6zbSJglsFNkVCtc+axIqveg2PXzWE1nCBF3ElEB+ utaA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=RpgNz85oexg6c5Gk3pdwLNYg/fGtQ7sKLJkaC96Pdqo=; b=XVywRHEk+HcxPfAxv3XAFjqboBpHdsG22PgzGrTrtF5qF/twKYJS/K5qgFTDSOD5vW JdndzRjxiyVttcwr7xHFcAtc2zBHmjmHPFhrwfYkm4hNqctddz+03E/Pn7nSTSKZQO2z OtGv/GiOeDDSqoeRNfqZ+TqCde1ye1S2RJ6oxVNOUs/59Xz5bOwJJbu63SWdskJWD49S HvMVAKZsX6uAw062U9tkr5Wzfcr/56te0DTZGsGeeK2j1JoJ5Vns4H56TAMANPOcTvWQ qtrdrC6/nJzIlnBDM4zXYK0Jy1JN95rScH2FyB4dhf0UeplQPhZOMTOojudrGnJhucOv 1d3Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytdYf6sHyzAMs8YQl95lONxBt5+3lXYFX/Gs3Dl/Xbw+jcd2Gptc o378PwxiIVrbeQ+xjp9VKej/67i19yv/CwqUzXUv9Ch/ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x225HAK2M8pRdYN1YURYF51wTr0XMD9e5mB61p5b+3++f/art/eIBOy5M9zISuDpRZuK/j7UjCFFDPu1rwObHuoc= X-Received: by 10.55.145.1 with SMTP id t1mr9172471qkd.199.1517244312879; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:45:12 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.12.178.78 with HTTP; Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:45:12 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [68.2.91.220] In-Reply-To: References: <20180102183620.ielocnq7mgud4bwm@cantor> <7789a591-ff52-fb95-d859-2d03d4fe9eaf@gould.cx> From: Todd Cole Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 09:45:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: KeePass2 versus KeePassX To: Main PLUG discussion list X-BeenThere: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Main PLUG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Main PLUG discussion list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4800584096299172292==" Errors-To: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org Sender: "PLUG-discuss" --===============4800584096299172292== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c084d924eaf130563ecf801" --94eb2c084d924eaf130563ecf801 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have used KeepassX V2 on ubuntu 16.04 for almost a year, I did use it with the old database for a few weeks then migrated using the included upgrade tool I also keep the database in my nextcloud account so it stays in sync across all my computers. I have seen usb drives used----BACKUP your DB http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/12/install-keepassx-2-0-in-ubuntu-= 16-04-15-10-14-04/ On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:17 AM, der.hans wrote: > Am 27. Jan, 2018 schw=C3=A4tzte Mark Phillips so: > > moin moin, > > KeePassX uses the KeePass2.x file format. It's supposed to be compatable. > > I haven't ever used KeePass2 directly, so can't speak to actual usage vs > theory. > > I did just try KeePassXC ( I was recently reminded about it from an EFF > guide ). The KeePassXC fork is getting better maintenance than KeePassX > and has added some excellent features. > > It allows generating a random string from anywhere in the UI, so it's now > easier to have random strings for email addresses and security questions. > > The random generator also has a multi-word passphrase option, which will > be much easier for security questions that might have to be answered over > the phone. > > KeePassXC has a merge option for merging in changes from another database > file. > > I still don't see a way to sync out or export a sub-set of keys, but you > can drag and drop accounts from one DB to another. Drag and drop moves it= , > but drag and drop copies. > > Still not near as functional as it should be, but makes it much easier to > keep files in sync. > > ciao, > > der.hans > > I just tried to open my KeePass2 database with KeePassX, and got the erro= r >> message - Wrong signature. >> >> I keep my database on Dropbox and a key file on my hard drive. When I us= ed >> KeePassX to access the database on Dropbox, it did not show up in the fi= le >> finder until I selected all files. The database is .kdbx. I entered the >> location of the database key file when prompted, and then entered my >> password. That is when I go the error message. >> >> Are these two programs compatible, or am I stuck with the Windows/wine f= or >> my existing password repository? >> >> I looked at the import options for KeePassX, and all I see are KeePassX >> (xml), PWManager (pwm), or KWallwet (xml). Nothing for KeepPass2. >> >> Thanks! >> >> Mark >> >> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Ted Gould wrote: >> >> I use KeePassXC (via the snap) and KeePass2Android. On my Ubuntu Desktop= I >>> have the file saved in the directory that NextCloud syncs and then have >>> KeePass2Android also grab it from Nextcloud. Works great. >>> >>> Ted >>> >>> On 01/02/2018 01:13 PM, der.hans wrote: >>> >>> Am 02. Jan, 2018 schw=C3=A4tzte Mark Phillips so: >>> >>> moin moin Mark, >>> >>> I sync my files manually. Last I looked KeePassX still didn't have a >>> viable sync option. A sync tool was probably the plugin I considered. >>> >>> Missing features include a tool for syncing files, a tool for exporting >>> password sets and a use anywhere random stringerator. >>> >>> All easy to work around for an individual, but the sync features would >>> help a lot of team use. >>> >>> ciao, >>> >>> der.hans >>> >>> I forgot to add that I also use KeePass2Android, and I forget how the t= wo >>> stay synchronized. But it works well. >>> >>> Maybe I will download the two, KeePassX and KeePassDroid, and see if th= ey >>> can read my KeePass2 database. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Jerry Snitselaar >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue Jan 02 18, Carruth, Rusty wrote: >>> >>> My only interaction with the KeePas* suite resulted in not being able t= o >>> read the database after an upgrade/update/something. >>> >>> I don=E2=80=99t remember which it was (2, x, whatever). The machine is= at home. >>> I=E2=80=99ll have to look, but I=E2=80=99m hoping we=E2=80=99ll get som= e reaction and info that >>> maybe will point to a solution for me as well=E2=80=A6 >>> >>> >>> >>> There is an action in the database menu to import a keepass 1 format >>> database. Perhaps the issue was that. I have a vague recollection of >>> running into that at some point. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org >>> ] On >>> Behalf Of Mark Phillips >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 9:50 AM >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list >>> Subject: KeePass2 versus KeePassX >>> >>> Happy New Year to everyone!! >>> >>> I have been using KeePass2 on my Ubuntu machine for over 10 years >>> (through wine), and I just discovered KeePassX as a native application.= I >>> use Keepass2 primarily as a password backup, as I also use LastPass wit= h >>> the chrome extension for my day to day password manager. >>> >>> I have a couple of questions about moving from KeePass2/wine to KeePass= X. >>> >>> I found in one post that the differences that the database files are >>> binary compatible. (https://superuser.com/questio >>> ns/878902/whats-the-difference-between-keepass-and-keepassx). Can anyon= e >>> confirm this? >>> >>> The only other difference (other that GUI related stuff) is that KeePas= s2 >>> has plugins and KeePassX does not. I am not using any plugins now. Are >>> there any that you think are really valuable to have, and would be a >>> reason >>> not to switch? >>> >>> Should I switch to KeePassX? I am assuming I can get rid of wine and sa= ve >>> some disk space, and run a native application instead of a wine >>> application. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >> > -- > # https://www.LuftHans.com https://www.PhxLinux.org > # Your email is being read by hundreds of uptight agents > # who never saw the humor in Dr. Strangelove. -- Mark Russell > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --=20 Todd Cole Ubuntu Arizona Team 4605 S PRIEST DR LOT 3 TEMPE AZ 85282-6507 toddc@azloco.com 602-677-9402 --94eb2c084d924eaf130563ecf801 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have used KeepassX V2 on ubuntu 16.04 for almo= st a year, I did use it with the old database for a few weeks then migrated= using the included upgrade tool

I also keep the database in m= y nextcloud account so it stays in sync across all my computers. I have see= n usb drives used----BACKUP your DB
http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2015/12/install-keepassx-2-0-in-ubuntu= -16-04-15-10-14-04/

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 9:17 AM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthan= s.com> wrote:
Am 27. Jan, 2= 018 schw=C3=A4tzte Mark Phillips so:

moin moin,

KeePassX uses the KeePass2.x file format. It's supposed to be compatabl= e.

I haven't ever used KeePass2 directly, so can't speak to actual usa= ge vs
theory.

I did just try KeePassXC ( I was recently reminded about it from an EFF
guide ). The KeePassXC fork is getting better maintenance than KeePassX
and has added some excellent features.

It allows generating a random string from anywhere in the UI, so it's n= ow
easier to have random strings for email addresses and security questions.
The random generator also has a multi-word passphrase option, which will be much easier for security questions that might have to be answered over the phone.

KeePassXC has a merge option for merging in changes from another database file.

I still don't see a way to sync out or export a sub-set of keys, but yo= u
can drag and drop accounts from one DB to another. Drag and drop moves it,<= br> but <ctrl><shift> drag and drop copies.

Still not near as functional as it should be, but makes it much easier to keep files in sync.

ciao,

der.hans

I just tried to open my KeePass2 database with KeePassX, and got the error<= br> message - Wrong signature.

I keep my database on Dropbox and a key file on my hard drive. When I used<= br> KeePassX to access the database on Dropbox, it did not show up in the file<= br> finder until I selected all files. The database is .kdbx. I entered the
location of the database key file when prompted, and then entered my
password. That is when I go the error message.

Are these two programs compatible, or am I stuck with the Windows/wine for<= br> my existing password repository?

I looked at the import options for KeePassX, and all I see are KeePassX
(xml), PWManager (pwm), or KWallwet (xml). Nothing for KeepPass2.

Thanks!

Mark

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 6:13 PM, Ted Gould <ted@gould.cx> wrote:

I use KeePassXC (via the snap) and KeePass2Android. On my Ubuntu Desktop I<= br> have the file saved in the directory that NextCloud syncs and then have
KeePass2Android also grab it from Nextcloud. Works great.

Ted

On 01/02/2018 01:13 PM, der.hans wrote:

Am 02. Jan, 2018 schw=C3=A4tzte Mark Phillips so:

moin moin Mark,

I sync my files manually. Last I looked KeePassX still didn't have a viable sync option. A sync tool was probably the plugin I considered.

Missing features include a tool for syncing files, a tool for exporting
password sets and a use anywhere random stringerator.

All easy to work around for an individual, but the sync features would
help a lot of team use.

ciao,

der.hans

I forgot to add that I also use KeePass2Android, and I forget how the two stay synchronized. But it works well.

Maybe I will download the two, KeePassX and KeePassDroid, and see if they can read my KeePass2 database.

Mark

On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 11:36 AM, Jerry Snitselaar <dev@snitselaar.org>
<dev@snitselaar.= org>
wrote:

On Tue Jan 02 18, Carruth, Rusty wrote:

My only interaction with the KeePas* suite resulted in not being able to read the database after an upgrade/update/something.

I don=E2=80=99t remember which it was (2, x, whatever).=C2=A0 The machine i= s at home.
I=E2=80=99ll have to look, but I=E2=80=99m hoping we=E2=80=99ll get some re= action and info that
maybe will point to a solution for me as well=E2=80=A6



There is an action in the database menu to import a keepass 1 format
database. Perhaps the issue was that. I have a vague recollection of
running into that at some point.




From: PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org
<
plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org>] On
Behalf Of Mark Phillips
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2018 9:50 AM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: KeePass2 versus KeePassX

Happy New Year to everyone!!

I have been using KeePass2 on my Ubuntu machine for over 10 years
(through wine), and I just discovered KeePassX as a native application. I use Keepass2 primarily as a password backup, as I also use LastPass with the chrome extension for my day to day password manager.

I have a couple of questions about moving from KeePass2/wine to KeePassX.
I found in one post that the differences that the database files are
binary compatible. (https://superuser.com/questio
ns/878902/whats-the-difference-between-keepass-and-keepassx). Can= anyone
confirm this?

The only other difference (other that GUI related stuff) is that KeePass2 has plugins and KeePassX does not. I am not using any plugins now. Are
there any that you think are really valuable to have, and would be a
reason
not to switch?

Should I switch to KeePassX? I am assuming I can get rid of wine and save some disk space, and run a native application instead of a wine
application.

Thanks!

Mark



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