From plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org Tue Jan 2 00:02:45 2018 Return-Path: X-Original-To: lurker@lists.phxlinux.org Delivered-To: lurker@lists.phxlinux.org Received: from phxlinux.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by phxlinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E6232A01B9; Tue, 2 Jan 2018 00:02:45 -0700 (MST) X-Original-To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Delivered-To: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org Received: from mr26p44im-ztdg08093301.me.com (mr26p44im-ztdg08093301.me.com [17.111.247.48]) by phxlinux.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BB12E32A01B6 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 2018 00:02:43 -0700 (MST) Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.mr26p44im-ztdg08093301.me.com by mr26p44im-ztdg08093301.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) id <0P1X005001QA8S00@mr26p44im-ztdg08093301.me.com> for plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2018 07:02:42 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=icloud.com; s=04042017; t=1514876562; bh=MrLT6S/RrDtUFs4Y3cJgo6oXiJjN9yeBPFuSxbv6y6U=; h=From:MIME-version:Content-type:Subject:Date:To:Message-id; b=NUFKsrcJX4xHtuzaklGJFAE6z4vEydhv643iISu5Cpp3pcB7f9E0/UG2hgpsIANzV ct6ZbSU10T+fwN3WFyZcmYT1P644PAHob3SMFJSO9u9qMqDdCFwjq7cvCqqB1wAe+Q YFftNiF7kT5SBwHhKuE7w7Ek4Gdjyn3TZXAct/vOPqOvJ6xmyX+dA3pG8FvrFlE+Ji D3oDr1V++zsTuR4DCvC0pIivtBbgGNuHOd0MwVnoMd7PAt5dUka8Md6YX7kmFUm8LK 3uGFgjo7sMnAzWNE82WCu8hjBUlSYtjW5XRdsDEWMIlNCmYWYFa6uwLaJcuz2gu/uI nhb+G6q3IEulQ== Received: from icloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by mr26p44im-ztdg08093301.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) with ESMTPSA id <0P1X00C4J28HIW20@mr26p44im-ztdg08093301.me.com> for plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org; Tue, 02 Jan 2018 07:02:42 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2018-01-02_05:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=2 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1707230000 definitions=main-1801020105 From: Eric Oyen MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1283) Subject: Re: OT: New Email Home? Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2018 00:02:40 -0700 In-reply-to: <6AC08F24-7566-4908-B2B9-B872EAA8411E@thetoolwiz.com> To: Main PLUG discussion list References: <0F4FC3F2-88C5-4A84-8232-9451373A5604@cox.net> <6AC08F24-7566-4908-B2B9-B872EAA8411E@thetoolwiz.com> Message-id: <3D5F15D7-251B-47F8-BE63-5C788CA520D1@icloud.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1283) X-BeenThere: plug-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Main PLUG discussion list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Reply-To: Main PLUG discussion list Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4178055966833613274==" Errors-To: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org Sender: "PLUG-discuss" --===============4178055966833613274== Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_604D59DA-0FF5-4754-BE93-F3EFF9E2A60F" --Apple-Mail=_604D59DA-0FF5-4754-BE93-F3EFF9E2A60F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 well, lets see. protonmail.com Startmail.com gmail.com mail in a box secure web hosting with domain support.. lots of available choices, some of which are free. -eric from the central offices of the technomage Guild, Securities and mail = Exchanges Dept. On Jan 1, 2018, at 10:21 PM, David Schwartz wrote: > Do you do any web hosting? >=20 > Virtually every reasonable web hosting account today has email support = included. >=20 > A shared hosting account can be had pretty cheaply these days. >=20 > I=92ve run a =93reseller=94 type account for years, because it lets me = set up separate hosting accounts for each domain. That means if one gets = hacked, it doesn=92t take out all the others. (I do NOT =93resell=94 = hosting!) >=20 > I recently moved to a shared SSD hosting account at eleven2.com, and = I=92ve been quite happy so far. >=20 > Shared hosting of any kind can be a challenge, because they load-up = the servers with accounts, and over time performance slowly degrades as = they add more accounts and people use their accounts more. >=20 > I was blown away with the performance boost switching to an SSD = hosting account! I=92m sure it will peter off over time, but for now = it=92s crazy fast. >=20 > And =85 so there=92s no mistake about what I=92m referring to here =85 = most of my use is EMAIL. My websites are mostly just parking pages right = now. >=20 > I use these for my INCOMING email, and I use sendgrid for all outgoing = mail. This lets me effectively shut down my outgoing SMTP service so = when hackers get into my accounts, they can=92t use the email as a = relay, which is what the vast majority of hackers are after. (Sendgrid = is free for the first 10,000 emails per month; I don=92t think I hit = 50.) >=20 > Anyway, I see that eleven2.com has SSD-100 shared hosting right now = for $2.98/mo. That=92s probably on a 3-yr prepaid plan. But they=92re = offering a 50% discount on that page, and a coupon for 30% on their home = page. Whatever the discount is, like most hosting providers it=92s only = valid on your first payment. I think I signed up for a 1-yr plan of = reseller hosting for $75. >=20 > These guys offer vanilla cPanel hosting for managing everything. And = if you want to throw up a wordpress site or two, it takes about two = minutes. >=20 > -David Schwartz >=20 > On Jan 1, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Victor Odhner wrote: >=20 > I want to open a new email account, using a good solid provider with = decent security. My requirements aren=92t paranoid, but I don=92t want = another Yahoo. >=20 > I=92m willing to pay something like $20 =96 $40 a year for a reputable = service with no ads. >=20 > I could use Startmail (I do my searches via StartPage), but that=92s = $60/year and I don=92t need all that encryption, though I wouldn=92t = turn it down. >=20 > Suggestions? Experience? >=20 > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss = mailing list =96 PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, = unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: = http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >=20 >=20 > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --Apple-Mail=_604D59DA-0FF5-4754-BE93-F3EFF9E2A60F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 well, = lets see.

mail in a = box
secure web hosting with domain = support..

lots of available choices, some of = which are free.

-eric
from the = central offices of the technomage Guild, Securities and mail Exchanges = Dept.

On Jan 1, 2018, at 10:21 PM, David = Schwartz wrote:

Do you do any web hosting?

Virtually every = reasonable web hosting account today has email support included.

A = shared hosting account can be had pretty cheaply these days.

I=92ve = run a =93reseller=94 type account for years, because it lets me set up = separate hosting accounts for each domain. That means if one gets = hacked, it doesn=92t take out all the others. (I do NOT =93resell=94 = hosting!)

I recently moved to a shared SSD hosting account at eleven2.com, and I=92ve been quite happy = so far.

Shared hosting of any kind can be a challenge, because = they load-up the servers with accounts, and over time performance slowly = degrades as they add more accounts and people use their accounts = more.

I was blown away with the performance boost switching to an = SSD hosting account! I=92m sure it will peter off over time, but for now = it=92s crazy fast.

And =85 so there=92s no mistake about what I=92m = referring to here =85 most of my use is EMAIL. My websites are mostly = just parking pages right now.

I use these for my INCOMING email, = and I use sendgrid for all outgoing mail. This lets me effectively shut = down my outgoing SMTP service so when hackers get into my accounts, they = can=92t use the email as a relay, which is what the vast majority of = hackers are after. (Sendgrid is free for the first 10,000 emails per = month; I don=92t think I hit 50.)

Anyway, I see that eleven2.com has SSD-100 shared hosting = right now for $2.98/mo. That=92s probably on a 3-yr prepaid plan. But = they=92re offering a 50% discount on that page, and a coupon for 30% on = their home page. Whatever the discount is, like most hosting providers = it=92s only valid on your first payment. I think I signed up for a 1-yr = plan of reseller hosting for $75.

These guys offer vanilla cPanel = hosting for managing everything. And if you want to throw up a wordpress = site or two, it takes about two minutes.

-David Schwartz

On Jan 1, 2018, at 5:22 PM, Victor Odhner <vodhner@cox.net> wrote:

I = want to open a new email account, using a good solid provider with = decent security. My requirements aren=92t paranoid, but I don=92t want = another Yahoo.

I=92m willing to pay something like $20 =96 $40 a = year for a reputable service with no ads.

I could use Startmail (I = do my searches via StartPage), but that=92s $60/year and I don=92t need = all that encryption, though I wouldn=92t turn it = down.

Suggestions? = Experience?

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