Interesting part to the whole net neutrality thing, companies are already working around the system regardless.

Cox for instance provide local connections directly or to a service to other companies that peer to Netflix, Youtube, Amazon, Hulu, and other bandwidth hogs, so they dump your traffic out to them over n x 100gb connections locally already to save the whole queuing problems vs. sending you to Internet via LA as normal. It doesn't mean Cox won't continue to raise your internet rate as cable subscriptions fall off, but orgs like netflix and google are already fairly insulated in the matter with solutions in place.

Your worst-case scenario is Comcast or other ill-intentioned MSP buys Cox, and imposes their established limitations. Their customers are already beaten down for 10 years of metered internet, and they're far worse than ours here. Cox already uses (rebranded) Comcast Xfiniti as their entire new video platform, so why not.

I miss the old Cox that used to run Usenet alt.binary warez feeds.

-mb

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:15 PM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:

Am 24. Jan, 2018 schwätzte Eric Cope so:

moin moin Eric,

we're choosing between "I paid for Internet access" and "Only if we decide
you can have it."

Netflix gets a bad rap for using lots of bandwidth. That's crap.

Netflix uses zero bandwidth. Netflix customers use the bandwidth and they
are paying their ISPs to get it.

I'm paying for whole Internet access, not just "Only if we decide you can
have it" Internet access.

ciao,

der.hans

I think this is a great example of why net nuetrality is so bad.

We aren't choosing from "the fast lane for everybody" vs "the slow lane for
everybody and the fast lane for those who pay".
We are choosing between "the slow lane for everybody" vs "the slow lane for
everybody and the fast lane for those who pay".

The former is how you drive innovation. You let those who an afford the
luxury buy it, and as it matures, its finds its way into regular consumer's
hands.

Let the flaming begin.

Eric

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 12:04 PM, AZ Pete <plug@sonoranzen.com> wrote:

Thought I'd share this with the group. If anyone has friends/relatives
that don't understand net neutrality have them watch this youTube video.

I think it explains it perfectly for the layman.

Peter

-------- Forwarded Message --------

Burger King Trolled Customers to Perfectly Explain Net Neutrality

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/a3nmze/burger-king-net-neutrality-ad

[VIDEO]: https://youtu.be/ltzy5vRmN8Q

Burger King created a "fast lane" for Whoppers in the
commercial, which allowed customers who paid more to get their
burger faster. Without the net neutrality rules that the
Federal Communications Commission repealed last year, internet
companies could charge customers more for faster access to
certain online content, just like the Whopper fast lane. They
could prioritize some content over others (chicken sandwiches
over Whoppers, for example) and throttle service on content
for some users (very, very slowly handing over the bag).
Look, I'm not one to gush over brands, and at the end of the
day Burger King's goal is to appeal to woke millennials so it
can sell more burgers. But it created a really useful PSA in
the process, which also points viewers to an online petition
where they can protest the change in the law. Oh, and in case
you missed it, there's even a dig at FCC Chair Ajit Pai at the
end.

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