Old days I'd normally say disabling ACPI to force older APM function as a *solution*, but I think doing so you'll loose a lot of power management features the kernel needs these days probably expects for modern hardware to keep it sustainable for use.  I can see power usage being a problem without s-states and such (gpu switching, dynamic cpu throttling) long term when your battery only lasts a half hour.

I've been fighting this some with my dell laptop trying to use a thunderbolt/usb-c dock, trying to find a perfect "working" combo of crappy dell bios firmware vs. dock firmware vs. kernel vs. kernel microcode vs. gpu driver vs. crappy usb ethernet in the dock that none want to play nicely with each other from release to release.  Dell fixes bios/dock firmware, kernel fixes something, breaks one of the others, gpu is dependent on older kernels and break things with newer, mutate pattern for next bios/firmware release, round and round...

Needless to say, I just wish they'd figure this out after 20 fscking years of laptop atrocities in power management from like, every vendor, constantly.  This doesn't seem it should be that hard.

-mb

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 9:19 AM, Andrew McRobb <andrewmcrobb@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry for the delay. Haven't had time to sit down even... Anyway, seems like they just pushed up some updates to the kernel and microcode. -- I'll apply the updates now and post back, I've also noticed some other minor things got borked now and then. Such as terminal not wanting to open (rare times), and my Slack client unable to start anymore. -- I suppose that's what I get for not waiting till the end of the month to apply updates. -___-

My computer isn't using legacy, and is custom built. So ACPI may sound like the problem w/ the newer kernal. Worst case I'll see if disabling it would solve my problem.

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On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Michael Butash <michael@butash.net> wrote:
Sounds like an acpi bug in the bios, or kernel toward your bios - see if there's an update for it.  Anytime I've had suspend issues, it's almost always a bios thing, particularly in Dell, or or kernel folks begrudgingly write an exception to deal with popular, crappy hardware.

This issue single-handed holds back linux in general on laptop hardware as every laptop is different, where the vendors usually write crappy windoze code and drivers to work around their poor, non-standard bios'.

If you're using grub/legacy bios, might try EFI if it supports it.  Not sure how much will follow through and plague you, but might prove better, or at least more standard these days.  Dell is at least one that actually *does* consider linux vs. the lenovo, toshiba, and hp's that still pretend no one uses linux desktops.

-mb

On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Andrew McRobb <andrewmcrobb@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I recently upgraded my kernel to ver 4.13.0-26, and updated my Intel Microcode for the latest security fixes (3.20180108.0~ubuntu16.04.2) w/ some other updates revolving my Mint installation. It started happening once after everything was upgraded. All my software seems to be working fine after the updates. Virtualbox, Docker, FireFox, etc... For whatever reason when my machine goes to sleep, and I attempt to wake it up. It literally freezes on a frame of my applications reappearing (fadded) w/ the desktop wallpaper behind them.

Has anyone had anything like this happen to them? -- I disabled the power saving option to avoid this at the moment.

Specs
Linux Mint: 18.3 64x
uname -a: Linux andrew-desktop 4.13.0-26-generic #29~16.04.2-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jan 9 22:00:44 UTC 2018 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux



Andrew McRobb
Full-time Software Developer
Part-time Freelancer

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