Damn Stallman was right again

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/po/javascript-trap.ja-en.html

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Andrew McRobb <andrewmcrobb@gmail.com> wrote:
JavaScript being the Raccoon? heh

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On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:46 PM, Ed <plug@0x1b.com> wrote:
More like raccoons to oranges...
8)

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 4:59 PM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
> Am 04. Jan, 2018 schwätzte Andrew McRobb so:
>
> moin moin Andrew,
>
> cool, sounds like having umatrix or NoScript blocking javascript is still
> sufficient.
>
> Need to make sure <script> is blocked as well as the external JS.
>
> https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_scripts.asp
>
> ciao,
>
> der.hans
>
>> No, HTML5 is a markup at the end of the day. Comparing JS and HTML, is
>> like
>> comparing apples to oranges. All HTML5 does is include new tags to use
>> when
>> building a web app for you or search engines to use:
>> https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_intro.asp. It doesn't at all handle
>> any logic like JS would, if that's what you are asking.
>>
>> Same can almost go for CSS. It's a description language, it doesn't handle
>> any logic (except for select queries). However, CSS is starting to
>> implement variables, but you can only use those for *attributes*. Not
>> write
>>
>> a fully functional app with CSS alone.
>>
>> Andrew McRobb
>> Full-time Software Developer
>> Part-time Freelancer
>> mcrobb.info
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:21 AM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
>>
>>> moin moin,
>>>
>>> I haven't paid much attention to HTML and CSS standards for many years.
>>>
>>> As I understand it, HTML5 is script-like to lesson use of javascript.
>>>
>>> Does that mean plain HTML ( no javascript ) is sufficient to exploit
>>> browsers in light of #meltdown and #spectre ?
>>>
>>> https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2018/01/03/mitigations-
>>> landing-new-class-timing-attack/
>>>
>>> https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/Home/chromium-security/ssca
>>>
>>> What about CSS?
>>>
>>> ciao,
>>>
>>> der.hans
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