On 09/25/2017 01:21 PM, der.hans wrote: > I don't see a way to buy it without the windows tax. Anyone know a way to > get an unloaded XPS from Dell? You have to search for "developer edition." Here is a link to one: http://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/xps-13-developer-edition/spd/xps-13-9360-laptop/cax13w10p7b5135ubuntu Also the awesome part is that the support also handles Ubuntu, so if a motherboard goes out they don't complain that Linux must have broke it. I'm currently using a Surface Pro 3. It was the only tablet that I could find with an i7 in it, which I need. Everything else had the m3 or m5 which just isn't enough for what I use it for. Ted