Damn Stallman was right again

https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/po/javascript-trap.ja-en.html

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:52 PM, Andrew McRobb <andrewmcrobb@gmail.com>
wrote:

> JavaScript being the Raccoon? heh
>
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> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 8:46 PM, Ed <plug@0x1b.com> wrote:
>
>> More like raccoons to oranges...
>> 8)
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 4:59 PM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
>> > Am 04. Jan, 2018 schwätzte Andrew McRobb so:
>> >
>> > moin moin Andrew,
>> >
>> > cool, sounds like having umatrix or NoScript blocking javascript is
>> still
>> > sufficient.
>> >
>> > Need to make sure <script> is blocked as well as the external JS.
>> >
>> > https://www.w3schools.com/html/html_scripts.asp
>> >
>> > ciao,
>> >
>> > der.hans
>> >
>> >> No, HTML5 is a markup at the end of the day. Comparing JS and HTML, is
>> >> like
>> >> comparing apples to oranges. All HTML5 does is include new tags to use
>> >> when
>> >> building a web app for you or search engines to use:
>> >> https://www.w3schools.com/html/html5_intro.asp. It doesn't at all
>> handle
>> >> any logic like JS would, if that's what you are asking.
>> >>
>> >> Same can almost go for CSS. It's a description language, it doesn't
>> handle
>> >> any logic (except for select queries). However, CSS is starting to
>> >> implement variables, but you can only use those for *attributes*. Not
>> >> write
>> >>
>> >> a fully functional app with CSS alone.
>> >>
>> >> Andrew McRobb
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>> >> On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 10:21 AM, der.hans <PLUGd@lufthans.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> moin moin,
>> >>>
>> >>> I haven't paid much attention to HTML and CSS standards for many
>> years.
>> >>>
>> >>> As I understand it, HTML5 is script-like to lesson use of javascript.
>> >>>
>> >>> Does that mean plain HTML ( no javascript ) is sufficient to exploit
>> >>> browsers in light of #meltdown and #spectre ?
>> >>>
>> >>> https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2018/01/03/mitigations-
>> >>> landing-new-class-timing-attack/
>> >>>
>> >>> https://sites.google.com/a/chromium.org/dev/Home/chromium-
>> security/ssca
>> >>>
>> >>> What about CSS?
>> >>>
>> >>> ciao,
>> >>>
>> >>> der.hans
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