Something to consider with text display on a "TV" is to turn off most of the movement enhancing functions. On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 1:08 PM, der.hans wrote: > Am 15. Nov, 2017 schwätzte David Schwartz so: > > moin moin, > > yeah, I ended up with the 50" TV because one of my 27" monitors went out > and the TV was the same price as a new pair of matching 27" monitors, but > with the space of 4 27" monitors. > > During Q4 I need to keep an eye on lots of metrics and graphs with circles > and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what it is. > It was awesome to have so much screen real estate. > > My current half-baked plan is to mount the behemoth on the wall with the > raisable wall mount to go with the standing desk. That will then house my > NOC display with all the pretty graphs. > > The new monitor would then be my work desk for a boatload of xterms and > an unfortunately growing number of browser windows. Also, Slack sucks and > eats way too much screen real estate. > > I'm finding that several feet of width needs a curved screen for me. Aging > eyes and too many parallel tasks. > > The biggest need is better text display, but might as well get all the > reasonable features I want since it's not an emergency this time. I'll do > fine with the current setup, but it would be good to have something with > less eye strain. > > The monitor death last year was going into the busiest weekend for the, at > the time, new $dayjob. I couldn't afford to be down to a single 27" > postage stamp-sized display :). > > Brian pointed me at http://www.rtings.com/ as a great site for comparing > TVs. It was really useful. > > ciao, > > der.hans > > Curved screens are about 2x the cost of non-curved screens. I think >> they’re way over-rated, mainly because they’re only curved along one axis. >> >> If I were to buy something “curved”, I’d get a spherical curve, which >> nobody makes (yet). >> >> A 55” TV as a monitor is equivalent to 4 x 27” HD monitors in a single >> panel. A truly awesome experience to behold! >> >> A couple of years ago I got a Seiki 39” 4K TV on sale for around $350 and >> used it as a monitor with my MacBook Pro for quite a while. It does a great >> job. (I’d love to sell it if anybody is interested.) >> >> My aging eyes don’t work well with things close-up, and a 39” 4K is >> roughly equivalent to 4 x 20” monitors. I can no longer look at 20” >> monitors for very long. Even 24” monitors are a challenge. >> >> But I can look at 27” screens all day without fatigue. And I don’t even >> need my reading glasses much of the time. >> >> So I recently upgraded to a mid-range 55” LG WebOS UJ6300 TV. Boy, what a >> nightmare it has been. (more on that shortly) >> >> After I got it and had trouble making it work well, I dug around the >> interwebs for quite a while and managed to find a few blogs where people >> actually posted results of trying different 4K TVs as computer monitors. >> >> Believe it or not, it seems like the low-end 4K TVs are far better suited >> for use as computer monitors than fancier ones. >> >> My LG TV cost me around $850. I’ve seen them for $650 lately, but I would >> definitely NOT recommend LG TVs (or higher-end TVs) for use as a monitor. >> >> The reason is … the fancier TVs have logic in them to “optimize” the >> picture and reduce flicker and artifacts and other weird stuff. >> >> That is to say, they make motion videos (both HD and 4K) look AWESOME at >> 4K resolution. But computer monitors are anything BUT “motion videos”. >> >> Besides that, this thing has so many frigging settings on it that it took >> me several sessions drilling through multiple settings and testing stuff >> before I got it to look halfway decent. >> >> Just locking it in 4:4:4 mode is amazingly convoluted. >> >> The screen on this LG is sharp as hell at 4K, but the colors are funky, >> and I’ve spent way too much time trying to fix them. >> >> My suggestion is simple: go to Costco and buy the cheapest 4K 55” (or >> smaller if you prefer) TV that they have. I think it’s something like TLC >> brand with built-in Roku for around $425. >> >> Try it out and if you don’t like it, take it back. >> >> The Samsung 6300 is highly rated as a monitor as well, but I think it’s >> no longer being sold. >> >> Do NOT get an LG TV for use as a monitor. However, if you want to watch >> movies on it in your living room, then it’s an EXCELLENT choice. >> >> FWIW, there are 4K monitors now that are 27” and smaller. I might have >> been able to see them 15 years ago, but when your eyes start to “age-out”, >> it’s a lost cause. >> >> I *LOVE* the real estate that a 4K display offers, and having the >> equivalent of 4 x 27” HD screens on one panel is perfect for my eyes today. >> >> Yes, the edges are a few inches further away than the center, but my >> eyesight is fine for anything more than about 4’ away. So a curved screen >> would be of no particular benefit to me. >> >> (Think of your typical desktop — do you need it to be curved to have >> stuff spread out? No! You simply grab what you need and pull it in front of >> you.) >> >> -David Schwartz >> >> >> >> On Nov 14, 2017, at 2:11 PM, der.hans wrote: >>> >>> moin moin, >>> >>> I'm considering a wide, curved 4k monitor. >>> >>> I'll be connecting to an HDMI port. >>> >>> I'm currently using a 4k TV with text display issues. It was the best >>> option at the time, but my eyes really, really want a better text >>> display. >>> I'm also finding that a wide flat display is less than ideal, hence the >>> desire for curved. >>> >>> Any recommendations for specific monitors? Places of acquisition? >>> >>> I normally ignore black Friday sales, but this year many of them appear >>> to >>> be black November sales. 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