I do run a lot of VM's, almost always at least a windoze vm for visio and crappy conferencing software, sometimes playing with firewall or other network appliances, sometimes linux monitoring system appliances I've built, etc. That and I tend to run a lot of tabs, so 16gb of ram usually just isn't enough from my last system. I just moved to 128gb of ram in my desktop as 32gb I'd depelete quick too. I certain didn't need a 1tb ssd, but the cost difference was marginal enough I said screw it. My last few laptops and desktops with 512gb of ssd is just fine for me. I've tried the approach of running a vmware cluster at home for that purpose with far more resources to run VM's in, but end of the day, the heat/power wasn't worth it vs. just adding some ram and running what I needed between my desktop and laptop. Plus vmware management is shite anymore related to vcenter/esx, so for my needs, virtualbox is just fine. Another big reason for the ram is chrom[e|ium] is a fsck'ing pig still. With my deskop usage, between chrome and vm's, it's not uncommon to run around 50-60gb of ram all the time. I got tired of hitting EOM's and weird lag across the board as memory usage would fluctuate greatly in desktop use. -mb On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 12:26 PM, wrote: > > What are you doing that requires a top of the line CPU, 32G RAM, and a 1T > SSD? > > I'm a developer and am seeing a trend toward the cloud. PhpStorm provides > for editing directly on the dev server, GIT for moving code onto the > staging server and then onto the production server. I'm moving to Plesk > that allows me to run PHP 5.6 for older code and PHP 7 for newer code, > while running Ubuntu 16.04lts. Both versions of PHP on the same VPS. > > Given that a baseline laptop with decent graphics, 8G RAM, and a 128G SSD > should be enough. > > Unless one is running many local virtual machines, doing some serious > video or image work, or doing lots of compiling... I am think the cloud > and thin client hardware is the way to go. > > Your thoughts? > > > > On 2017-09-06 10:42, Michael Butash wrote: > > Yup, the precision 3000/5000 is almost a direct clone of the xps13/15, > just with different graphics (geforce vs. quadro), wifi (atheros vs. > intel), and proc (xeon options). Nothing else really different I could > tell other than price. I went with the xps as consumer coupons go higher > than precision discounts. > > I usually just shop bensbargains.com or dealnews, wait for a dell outlet > refurb coupon to go 35-40% around a holiday, and score a laptop then for > some steep savings. I got this xps15 loaded with the 4k display, nvidia > gpu, 32gb ram, 1tb ssd for $1950 out the door. Worst part of buying from > dell is sales tax. :( > > -mb > > On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 9:23 AM, Stephen Partington > wrote: > >> I have been seeing Ubuntu offered on their precision mobile >> workstations... >> >> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Carruth, Rusty >> wrote: >> >>> Actually, comparing the Alienware that I bought vs a very similar one at >>> System 76: >>> >>> >>> >>> Alienware: 16G RAM, 4K display, 1T rotating drive, 128G SSD, I7-7700: >>> List $2066, paid $1536 >>> >>> System76: 16G RAM, 1080P, 2T rotating drive, 512G SSD, I7-7700: >>> list under $1500. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, double the rotator size, 4x the SSD size, and remove the 4K display >>> – and save around $500. I'd say 76 isn't bad, price-wise. The primary >>> reason I got the alien was because of the 4K and similar price (I did a >>> side-by-side comparison at the store. 4K really is better, and when I got >>> home and booted Linux on it – whoa!). (Don't know which video card they >>> each had – I'm not going to be doing gaming (much?) so don't care that >>> much... I think) >>> >>> >>> >>> Unfortunately, live booting the Mint 17.3 DVD resulted in no Ethernet or >>> WiFi. I'm downloading 18.2 now to see if that's better, as a google search >>> seems to imply it is. But the display! Oh, my goodness! >>> >>> >>> >>> Oh, by the way – the alienware has only ONE 'standard' disk slot, but 3, >>> yes THREE M.2 slots – one very short, the other 2 full-length. And only 2 >>> RAM slots. Which is too bad – my Lenovo for work (17" also) has 2 standard >>> slots and 2 M.2 slots (and 4 RAM slots) – I mean, its not like they don't >>> have ROOM, for goodness sake! But then, the Lenovo was almost $3000. Of >>> course, it had a 1TB SSD as well as 16G of ram and the TOP video card... >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* PLUG-discuss [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.phxlinux.org] *On >>> Behalf Of *Michael >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 05, 2017 7:15 PM >>> *To:* Main PLUG discussion list >>> *Subject:* Re: Warranty!!?!?!?!?! >>> >>> >>> >>> system76 is expensive too >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Phil Waclawski < >>> phil.waclawski@mesacc.edu> wrote: >>> >>> I have a laptop from zareason that I've used for several years. It was a >>> touch pricey, but still powerful enough to do a lot. They also will install >>> different flavors of linux for you. >>> >>> Phil Waclawski >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Mark Phillips < >>> mark@phillipsmarketing.biz> wrote: >>> >>> Rusty, >>> >>> >>> >>> Did you check out System 76 laptops? They come with Ubuntu installed, >>> but I think you can ask for any distro. I have been using their hardware >>> for a couple of years, and it is flawless. >>> >>> >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Michael Butash >>> wrote: >>> >>> I just went through this with a new dell, where I used the local windoze >>> tools to make a usb backup imagine with their software to a 16gb drive, and >>> just tossed it in a drawer if I ever need to restore things. That >>> supposedly restores their recovery partitions and windoze itself, which >>> should be everything... >>> >>> >>> >>> I'd not put faith in some tier 1 rep telling you linux voids the >>> warranty. It was probably one of those "What is linux? Yeah, don't do >>> that." sort of comments ignorant agents might spew, but otherwise shouldn't >>> matter. If you restore the disk and bios to prior function, they should be >>> none the wiser anyways. >>> >>> >>> >>> -mb >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:37 AM, irb wrote: >>> >>> * Carruth, Rusty (aka Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com) used 15K on Tue, 05 Sep >>> 2017 at 17:21 +0000 to say: >>> > >>> > (By the way – does anyone remember the 'windows refund day' many years >>> back? >>> > System vendors refused to honor the refund clause stated in the EULA >>> (or >>> > whatever it was), claiming that Microsoft had to honor it, and >>> Micro$oft >>> > claimed that it was the responsibility of the system vendors (which, >>> indeed, >>> > it was). But as far as I know, NOBODY got their refund.... Again, >>> where's >>> > the lawyers????) >>> >>> I remember that, as part of BALUG many years ago. I never got a refund >>> and >>> Microsoft tried to turn it to their advantage by setting up a booth. I >>> think >>> there's a documentary out there somewhere. >>> >>> When dealing with warranty crap from laptop vendors I just take an image >>> of >>> the drive. If I have to send it in I don't include the drive anyway, and >>> I've >>> never been given grief over it. Still, having an original hardware backup >>> like that is kinda cool. >>> >>> /i. >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> :-)~MIKE~(-: >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >> >> Stephen >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >