You pay a premium for system 76 due to their dev work they do. They work with canonical to fix issues and improve the OS for their hardware. > On Sep 5, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Michael wrote: > > system76 is expensive too > >> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 8:27 PM, Phil Waclawski wrote: >> I have a laptop from zareason that I've used for several years. It was a touch pricey, but still powerful enough to do a lot. They also will install different flavors of linux for you. >> >> Phil Waclawski >> >>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Mark Phillips wrote: >>> Rusty, >>> >>> Did you check out System 76 laptops? They come with Ubuntu installed, but I think you can ask for any distro. I have been using their hardware for a couple of years, and it is flawless. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Michael Butash wrote: >>>> I just went through this with a new dell, where I used the local windoze tools to make a usb backup imagine with their software to a 16gb drive, and just tossed it in a drawer if I ever need to restore things. That supposedly restores their recovery partitions and windoze itself, which should be everything... >>>> >>>> I'd not put faith in some tier 1 rep telling you linux voids the warranty. It was probably one of those "What is linux? Yeah, don't do that." sort of comments ignorant agents might spew, but otherwise shouldn't matter. If you restore the disk and bios to prior function, they should be none the wiser anyways. >>>> >>>> -mb >>>> >>>>> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 10:37 AM, irb wrote: >>>> >>>>> * Carruth, Rusty (aka Rusty.Carruth@smartm.com) used 15K on Tue, 05 Sep 2017 at 17:21 +0000 to say: >>>>> > >>>>> > (By the way – does anyone remember the ‘windows refund day’ many years back? >>>>> > System vendors refused to honor the refund clause stated in the EULA (or >>>>> > whatever it was), claiming that Microsoft had to honor it, and Micro$oft >>>>> > claimed that it was the responsibility of the system vendors (which, indeed, >>>>> > it was). But as far as I know, NOBODY got their refund…. Again, where’s >>>>> > the lawyers????) >>>>> >>>>> I remember that, as part of BALUG many years ago. I never got a refund and >>>>> Microsoft tried to turn it to their advantage by setting up a booth. I think >>>>> there's a documentary out there somewhere. >>>>> >>>>> When dealing with warranty crap from laptop vendors I just take an image of >>>>> the drive. If I have to send it in I don't include the drive anyway, and I've >>>>> never been given grief over it. Still, having an original hardware backup >>>>> like that is kinda cool. >>>>> >>>>> /i. >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > :-)~MIKE~(-: > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss