Check it out... Contrast app. http://leaverou.github.io/contrast-ratio/ On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 10:19 PM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: > I saw there was something for Open Office, I'll have to look for it. > Look at this - this is on the right track! > > http://sonargnulinux.com/ > > Eye tracking software for usability! > > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Ed wrote: > >> Google has a Accessibility Scanner for Android: >> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and >> roid.apps.accessibility.auditor&hl=en >> and the home site: >> https://www.google.com/accessibility/ >> >> I have not used it yet, but it looks like a good addition to any >> deployment pipeline. >> >> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:06 PM, Kaoru Wilbur >> wrote: >> > You could also try siteimprove. >> > They also have a free extension for chrome. but charge for the service >> > otherwise. We use that here too. >> > >> > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:36 PM, Kaoru Wilbur < >> m.kaoru.wilbur@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Eric , >> >> >> >> Since you are on the West side... Anyway, there are a few things we can >> >> discuss here. >> >> first... if you are interested in getting involved with the w3c group >> for >> >> wcag ( Web Content Accessibility Guidelines) there are a couple of >> groups >> >> you can join. The groups on W3c itself are closed to the public. If >> you work >> >> for a certain organization that is listed as part of their community >> effort, >> >> then, you can possibly get in. An easier way to contribute is to join >> them >> >> on Github. >> >> There is a w3c wcag and ARIA. Changes, edits, etc are done there for >> >> standards. >> >> >> >> As far as Drupal is concerned, I wasn't really impressed by their >> modules >> >> relevant to accessibility. Of course, maybe I wasn't looking in the >> right >> >> place but. Yea. >> >> >> >> 3rd party plugin tool. >> >> One tool I use to check content for accessibility is Wave. This does a >> >> pretty good check of accessibility items. >> >> >> >> now, that being said, something that works during the html generation >> >> process or html "writing" process would be nice. If you know of >> anything, >> >> let me know. >> >> >> >> I am also involved in a project that is a debian based distro .for >> >> accessibility but that is a long time coming as the tools are seriously >> >> lacking. >> >> Those who have good tools charge a lot of money and I would personally >> >> like to see more open source projects with regard to accessibility - >> like >> >> the ones adafruit have listed that hans linked to earlier in this >> thread. >> >> >> >> We really need better tools. >> >> If you look at the tools listed in the W3c accessibility area, many are >> >> out of date, obsolete, abandoned or not working. >> >> For example, if you find a good tool for contrast - let me know. >> >> There are some that are very simple. However, I think there could be >> much >> >> better tools and utilities for accessibility. >> >> >> >> Blind is definitely one are but there are many other visually impaired >> to >> >> consider - that is where contrast comes in, right. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Eric Oyen >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I would like to go myself, but I am in need of a ride from the west >> side. >> >>> There are just times when I hate living so far away from the center of >> >>> things. >> >>> >> >>> -eric >> >>> From the central office of the Technomage Guild, Dept of monorail >> >>> development. >> >>> >> >>> On May 24, 2017, at 10:38 PM, Kaoru Wilbur wrote: >> >>> >> >>> So I actually work with Drupal and have some experience wrt >> accessibility >> >>> at the University. I'll be at coffee hour tomorrow if anyone wants to >> chat >> >>> more about Drupal and accessibility - some tools for WCAG compliance - >> >>> contrast tools (how they are not working great) and what we are doing >> at the >> >>> W3c wrt accessibility and how you can get involved. >> >>> >> >>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:30 PM, der.hans wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Am 19. May, 2017 schwätzte der.hans so: >> >>>> >> >>>> moin moin, >> >>>> >> >>>> and another device popped up. >> >>>> >> >>>> https://plus.google.com/+adafruit/posts/6NH2VfeutQ1 >> >>>> >> >>>> ciao, >> >>>> >> >>>> der.hans >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> Am 29. Apr, 2017 schwätzte Eric Oyen so: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> moin moin, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> a post about a real-time braille converter from MIT reminds me that >> I >> >>>>> didn't report back on the demo for the accessible web-authoring >> tool. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Here's the braille converter post. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> https://plus.google.com/+adafruit/posts/eLygbwBhra2 >> >>>>> >> >>>>> The demo ended up using WordPress and was well received. The >> committee >> >>>>> was >> >>>>> impressed, but it will be some time before an official response is >> >>>>> given. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks again for the feedback. It was quite helpful. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> ciao, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> der.hans >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> well, here is a suggestion from one of the blind users of Linux who >> >>>>>> does a lot of web authoring.. Der Hands, you got this one? >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> -eric >> >>>>>> from the central office of the Technomage Huild, Datasphere >> projects >> >>>>>> office >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> From: Linux for blind general discussion >> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: Fwd: accessible web-authoring system >> >>>>>>> Date: April 29, 2017 4:20:51 AM MST >> >>>>>>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com >> >>>>>>> Reply-To: blinux-list@redhat.com >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Tony Baechler here. I'm sure others will chime in, but here are my >> >>>>>>> thoughts: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> 1. The most accessible is plain, static HTML. Obviously not >> practical >> >>>>>>> for large sites, but for a few pages, it's good enough. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> 2. WordPress is the most popular. It's generally very accessible. >> >>>>>>> There are things which could be made better, but it's good enough >> to design >> >>>>>>> decent sites. I ran a podcast with it. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> 3. Drupal is also very good, but the latest major release (8.0.X) >> is >> >>>>>>> very difficult to use and far from accessible unless I missed >> something >> >>>>>>> obvious. I had it running on a server and it was so bad that I >> gave up. 7.X >> >>>>>>> should be better, but will reach end of life in a year or two and >> only gets >> >>>>>>> bug and security fixes. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Joomla is very inaccessible and should absolutely be avoided. I >> >>>>>>> couldn't do anything with it, but that was a long time ago. The >> key is if >> >>>>>>> the admin interface is accessible or not. I would go with >> WordPress due to >> >>>>>>> the huge number of themes, frequent updates and overall decent >> >>>>>>> accessibility. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Another option is wiki software. There are a lot of wiki packages >> out >> >>>>>>> there. I liked ikiwiki when I looked at it. It obviously depends >> on the site >> >>>>>>> you're designing. Of the above, I think only ikiwiki is fully >> accessible >> >>>>>>> with a text browser, but WordPress is tolerable. You can do most >> functions >> >>>>>>> with wp-cli if you like the command line. Drupal has drush, but I >> couldn't >> >>>>>>> get it to work. WordPress is much easier to upgrade and can do >> minor updates >> >>>>>>> itself. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> On 4/28/2017 3:43 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> hey guys, >> >>>>>>>> I forwarded this over from the Phoenix Linux Users Group. Perhaps >> >>>>>>>> one of us can help out? >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> -eric >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message: >> >>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> From: "der.hans" >> >>>>>>>>> Subject: accessible web-authoring system >> >>>>>>>>> Date: April 28, 2017 12:32:48 PM MST >> >>>>>>>>> To: quatsch >> >>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Main PLUG discussion list >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> moin moin, >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> anyone have experience with an accessible Free Software >> >>>>>>>>> web-authoring >> >>>>>>>>> system? >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> A friend works in accessibiilty ( all sorts of physical and >> mental >> >>>>>>>>> handicaps ) and is asking for a recommendation. >> >>>>>>>>> >> >>>>>>>>> I presume Drupal, Joomla! and WordPress have plugins to help, >> but I >> >>>>>>>>> have >> >>>>>>>>> no experience. The closest thing I have to experience is demos >> from >> >>>>>>>>> some >> >>>>>>>>> blind guys using emacs for their own infrastructure. Amazing, >> but >> >>>>>>>>> not the >> >>>>>>>>> first thing to suggest. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list >> >>>>>>> Blinux-list@red >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >> >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >>>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> # http://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.PhxLinux.org/ >> >>>> # Two roads diverged in a wood, and I -- >> >>>> # I took the one less traveled by, >> >>>> # And that has made all the difference. -- Robert Frost >> >>>> # I, OTOH, prefer to just go stomping through the desert... - >> der.hans >> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >> >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >> >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > --------------------------------------------------- >> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > >