On Wed May 23 18, Stephen Partington wrote: >The Evo 960 is an NVMe drive. > Yes, and that is what I said below "moved to an m.2 nvme drive". I was just agreeing with you that you can see a real boost when doing something with heavy disk IO. >The part of the confusion around M.2 is that it will support 3 different >connections. PCIe x2 PCIe x4 and Sata. and you have to look at the "key" >locations to verify what is what. > >Puget systems has a nice KB on de-obfuscating this >https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Overview-of-M-2-SSDs-586/ > >On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:00 AM, Jerry Snitselaar >wrote: > >> On Wed May 23 18, Stephen Partington wrote: >> >>> In My experience you spend more time waiting on bios than on the OS to >>> load. the real boost is when you have heavy disk IO and DB workloads are >>> crazy fast. >>> >>> >> Most of my time is spent working with git and dealing with various >> branches of the kernel, and the speed up was quite noticable when >> I moved from a sata based ssd to an m.2 nvme drive (Samsung evo 960). >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:57 PM, wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> I wonder about the NVMe vs SSD. I have and SSD in my desktop and it >>>> boots >>>> much faster than my Laptop that has NVMe. They are not totally the same, >>>> however I think they are close enough. I think some of the performance >>>> is >>>> based on who made the NVMe or SSD. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2018-05-22 13:57, Brian Cluff wrote: >>>> >>>> For me, I would get a system that can use a NVMe. They are about the >>>>> same price as an SSD, but make and SSD look extremely slow. >>>>> >>>>> If you don't need it to be portable, then go with a desktop system. >>>>> They are much cheaper for the amount of power you get, are tougher so >>>>> they will last you longer, upgrade-able so they will last you longer. >>>>> They also offer much better cooling so when you are running the CPU at >>>>> it's maximum speed that it will actually be able to keep cool enough >>>>> to stay running at it's maximum speed without having to throttle >>>>> itself down to less than half the speed in order to not burn up, and >>>>> the same thing can be said of the GPU. >>>>> >>>>> My 6 year old desktop is faster than the fastest laptop you can get >>>>> new now and it cost me about half what a high end laptop would cost. >>>>> Getting a system with an NVMe is one of the biggest driving forces for >>>>> making me want to get a new system these days... they are just so >>>>> crazy fast that they really make your system feel like a rocket >>>>> compared to the same machine with even a SATA attached SSD. >>>>> >>>>> Brian >>>>> >>>>> On 05/22/2018 03:27 AM, techlists@phpcoderusa.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> If I were to build a work system today, I would take the following >>>>>> road. >>>>>> >>>>>> I would go with a laptop with an SSD, at least an i5, an upgraded video >>>>>> card like nvidia instead of the video built in the CPU, and I would go >>>>>> with >>>>>> something that had decent resolution. >>>>>> >>>>>> A laptop like this one : http://www.dell.com/en-us/work >>>>>> /shop/dell-laptops-and-notebooks/vostro-15-5000/spd/vostro- >>>>>> 15-5568-laptop/cav155w10p18s038 >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd add an external backup drive, an external keyboard, an external >>>>>> mouse, and I'd add 2 external flat screen monitors of around 21 inches >>>>>> each. >>>>>> >>>>>> Two of the reasons I moved back to Windows after running Linux Mint for >>>>>> 4 or 5 years was I was not able to take advantage of the screen share >>>>>> utilities such as Go-To-Meetings and I wanted my printer to be plug and >>>>>> play so I can use all it's features. >>>>>> >>>>>> At one point I was running a laptop with one external flat screen. >>>>>> Makes a lot of sense, since you are doing everything on one box that is >>>>>> also mobile. >>>>>> >>>>>> And I think moving as much as you can to the cloud is a good thing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now this configuration is what fits my needs. What are your needs? >>>>>> Are >>>>>> you editing images or videos? Are you a developer? Or are you >>>>>> researching >>>>>> Linux, or is your research about external things? >>>>>> >>>>>> For a simple configuration I'd go with a cheap used laptop with an i3 >>>>>> and bottom of the line resolution, add and SSD, add Mint, add an >>>>>> external >>>>>> backup drive. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have 3 or 4 of these SSDs and they are on sale : >>>>>> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820147676 >>>>>> >>>>>> I have two cheap used laptop running these. Great performance and as I >>>>>> recall they have a 5 year warrantee. I use one as a Linux web server >>>>>> for >>>>>> testing. The other I might use for an experiment. I'd like to load >>>>>> Mint on >>>>>> it and see how far I can push the cloud. I'd like to do everything >>>>>> external, using mostly free stuff. I do some video editing so I may >>>>>> need a >>>>>> little more power. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2018-05-21 19:30, mike enriquez wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am planing to build a Linux computer. I have Ubuntu 16.0 on an old >>>>>>> Dell XPS. I will be using it as my research computer. So "I will be >>>>>>> going where where others do not dare to go." I want a VPN on it >>>>>>> because I have not been able to install a VPN on the computer I now >>>>>>> have. I want a 64bit OS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know that most people say to use and old computer to run Linux. I >>>>>>> need ideas on Hardware to avoid and use. What would you do if you had >>>>>>> to build your own Linux computer from scratch? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your input. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mike Enriquez >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>>> >>>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >>> rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. >>> >>> Stephen >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > >-- >A mouse trap, placed on top of your alarm clock, will prevent you from >rolling over and going back to sleep after you hit the snooze button. > >Stephen --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss