Thanks to everyone for the very helpful info. So, I'm now considering fi.google.com -or- ting.com but their websites are confusing (to me). Can fi.google be used with any android phone? I also wonder if it might be time to "upgrade"? I currently have a Note 2 with an AirVoice sim card and a Note 3 with no sim card that I currently use only with wifi and not as a phone. Paid $200 for Note 2 and $250 for Note 3 and but should I consider something else. The only things I don't like now are all the apps that the phones keep prompting me to update (like Samsung Internet Browser and Bloomberg) that I don't even want on the phone but can't delete or get rid of ... plus so many nuisance apps that keep posting notifications every day that clutter up the opening that I can't stop from showing up every day. So ... let me open pandora's box and ask which phones would y'all recommend? I realize this is personal preference but it would interesting to know which phones are your top choices. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss