OK, I got off my butt and wrote up, and submitted, a feature request for this. Hopefully the see the wisdom in doing the change and can remove this huge paper cut from the system. Brian Cluff On 07/31/2017 08:34 PM, Brian Cluff wrote: > I had a whole set of changes I meant to send in to the KDE team which > would actually leave everything exactly the same as far as the code > and functionality, but would change the initial setup dialog to be a > lot more user friendly. I don't think that the KDE team realizes that > the many people have no idea what the wallet is for and what it does > for them, so it ends up being an annoyance. > Instead of just telling you to set a password, it should give you an > initial dialog that tells you what the wallet does and then offers you > 3 choices for security levels. Low security: just use the wallet > without a password, Medium security: set a password for your web > passwords but keep the local passwords such as wifi without a > password, and high security: set a password for all passwords in the > wallet. > > Unfortunately, I lost the lengthy message that I was going to send in > and never sent it. > > I believe that in the latest versions of KDE they might have partially > solved the problem by having the KDE wallet opened upon login if your > wallet is set with the same password, but if you have it set to be > closed when your machine goes to sleep or goes to a screen saver it > still has the same problem. > > Brian Cluff > > On 07/31/2017 07:20 PM, joe@actionline.com wrote: >> Thanks. That solved the problem. >> >> It is extremely annoying and frustrating (to me and I'll bet >> to many others) when distros (and updates) add and change >> things that are forced upon users "by default" rather than >> giving users the freedom of choice to "opt in" at the users >> discretion. In many cases the additions and so-called >> "improvements" are more of a nuisance than a benefit. >> >> I have wasted a huge amount of time trying to undo a lot >> of garbage that updates have forced upon me. >> >> >> ------------- >> >>> The easiest way to deal with it is to set a blank passwork on the KDE >>> wallet so that it won't prompt you for one at all in the future. It >>> was >>> complain that you are using an insecure password, but will allow you to >>> accept it anyway. >>> >>> The better way is to still use the KDE Wallet, but use a feature in it >>> that will allow you to store things like your wifi passwords in a >>> separate, lower security wallet while your other passwords are >>> stored in >>> the main wallet that still requires a password. >>> >>> Just go into Account Details -> KDE wallet and re-enable it, and then >>> click on "Different wallet for local passwords". Then click that new >>> button that is in line with that option and create a new wallet and >>> when >>> prompted for a password click OK, leaving it blank and then verify that >>> you want to use the insecure password. After that you will most likely >>> need to enter the wifi password in one more time, but after that you >>> should never be asked for it again. >>> >>> Brian Cluff >>> >>> On 07/27/2017 07:47 PM, joe@actionline.com wrote: >>>> I have several thinkpads with linux mint connected via wireless and >>>> all >>>> of them automatically connect when turned on and stay connected ... >>>> except on the most recent linux mint 18 installed thinkpad. >>>> >>>> Every time I close the lid it disconnects the wireless connection >>>> and I >>>> have to re-enter the network password to get it started again. >>>> >>>> What do I need to do to make it automatically connect and keep its >>>> connection? >>>> >>>> PS: I hate the KDE wallet nuisance and have it turned off. >>>> Please don't make me have to use it to achieve what I need. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------- >>>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.phxlinux.org To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.phxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss